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Old 09-30-2011, 08:23 AM   #15
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If it's a 2011 1500 LTZ 6.2... that would be my choice....but I'm biased.
Thanks, Bob for the vote for the Silverado. Deep down we feel that it is the practical choice and possibly a compromise. Would you consider it adequate for pulling (and stopping) Bill's Excella?[/QUOTE]

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Yes very capable, if optioned properly.
Check your PM's.
Thats where the VISS will come in handy. It will give you all the options on the vehicle AND warranty history, plus a lot of other useful info.

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Old 09-30-2011, 08:43 AM   #16
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Why guess?

Or go with something just "adequate"?

Go with the right vehicle, remove all doubt, and be well equipped for the future...

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Old 09-30-2011, 09:43 AM   #17
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It's the old argument, what is adequate and what is right. No problem with those who tow with big trucks, but you don't have to. They'll pull out the safety card next, but do your research.

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:27 PM   #18
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More info on Sierra diesel

Just received the vehicle build report on the 2009 Sierra 2500HD 6.6L Duramax and would appreciate some help interpretting the build codes from knowledgeable folk.

These are the codes we are concerned about:
FT2 and FT3 - Arm tors bar spring adjust
Z71 - off-road suspension pkg incl: off-road skid plates
Z82 - heavy duty trailering equip

We fear that these will make this beautiful truck too stiff for us. Please advise.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:36 PM   #19
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If you're worried that the suspension package on the Sierra would make the ride too rough for passengers, you should be able to determine that with a long test drive. Most dealers will let serious buyers take an overnight test.

If the ride is ok for you but you're worried that it'll be too stiff for the Airstream, look into the AirSafe hitch.
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Just received the vehicle build report on the 2009 Sierra 2500HD 6.6L Duramax and would appreciate some help interpretting the build codes from knowledgeable folk.

These are the codes we are concerned about:
FT2 and FT3 - Arm tors bar spring adjust
Z71 - off-road suspension pkg incl: off-road skid plates
Z82 - heavy duty trailering equip

We fear that these will make this beautiful truck too stiff for us. Please advise.
FT2 and FT3 are just the callout for the front suspension, although they are Z71 rated in this case
Z71, It'll be pretty stiff. I am currently driving a 2500 gasser w/o Z71. Like it a lot.
Z82 you do want. Includes all the stuff you want for towing.
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:40 PM   #21
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Dianne,

IMO....all good except the Z71 off road suspension. Driven an awful lot of them over the years, a little stiff for my liking, especially on extended trips.

Ask the dealer for a weekend test drive, explain what you want to do.
Bring it home, hook up the stream and go for a ride.
If they're serious about the sale they will say yes. We did at the Chevy Store.

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We have a 09 Silverado 2500 LTZ w/ Z71 and duramax diesel/Allison transmission all the toys inside. We tow a 2012 27FB Classic. It rides very smooth, climbs hills without any problems. Very satisfied with both.
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If you plan to use the truck on a daily basis as well then I would seriously look at the ecoboost.
I have one in a supercab with 8 foot box. Long truck.
Truck payload is 2670lb and tow capacity is 11000 lb.
I tow 31 foot airstream and it is effortless.
The truck is amazingly quiet.
I get at least 12mpg(us) towing and have managed to get over 23 mpg(us) driving on interstate and state highway combined which includes speed zones through small towns and the odd stop light.
Obviously I am very happy with my truck.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:29 PM   #24
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  • 2011 F150 Lariat Crew Cab, EcoBoost w/ max tow pkg
  • 2011 Silverado 1500 LTZ extended cab, 6.2L Vortec V8 w/ max tow pkg
  • 2009 Sierra 2500 HD (that's Harley Davidson trim level), extended cab, 6.6L Duramax diesel with 11,000 miles

There's been a few clarifications in the thread, but the best of my abilities (research through websites) the following is true:

An F150 with EcoBoost is a 3.5L V6 with twin turbos. Granted, no slouch, but this is not the 6.2L. If you get the 6.2L it is not an EcoBoost and it only comes in the high-trim levels.

Chevy gas...the description is spot-on to the best of my knowledge. 6.2L V8 is available in 1/2 ton form and with high trim level (LTZ)

Sierra Harley...it's been mentioned before that Chevy never made an Harley edition truck. That was Ford. The HD after the 2500 means "heavy duty". If the Chevy you're looking at has a bunch of Harley trim then it was put in custom by a previous owner. Do a Google search for "Harley Davidson Sierra" and see what comes up...nothing about a GM truck.

Personally I know which I'd choose. I don't currently own a diesel because I couldn't afford it when I bought my tow vehicle and I still can't. But, I've owned diesel trucks in the past. Not only can you pull your Airstream, but if you've like to pull your house off of it's foundation, you can do that, too.
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Diesel is out - On to 1500 6.2L V8

Thanks to all for the help.

Although we were comfortable enough riding in the 2500 diesel, subjecting our trailer to the relatively rough ride of an off road suspension is not desirable -- and we don't want to invest a lot of money at this time in a softer riding hitch. Up here in the north country it seems that snow plow and off-road packages are the norm.

The Eco-boost F150 sounds like a really great car, but a maximum tow package is not available locally and although a dealer located one in Mass., we don't feel that we should make a commitment on it at this time.

So, if you are still willing to stay with us, please give comments and experience about the 2011 Silverado LTZ extended cab with the maximum tow package. This package includes a 6.2L Vortec V8, a heavy duty axle, and disc brakes all around. Don't know much about the transmission, but it is a 6 speed and definitely has tow-haul.

Comments on mileage and performance would be appreciated.
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:32 PM   #26
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Dianne,

Do you know the axle ratio? 3:73 minimum 4:10 for the heavier trailer, esp in the mtns.

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Bob,
The Silverado 6.2L has the standard 3.73 rear end.
Hydra-Matic 6 speed
GVWR 7200 lb.
Payload 1,879 lb.
Curb wt. 5,321 lb.

I've seen reports on other forums that we might expect 17-18mpg with mixed hwy/city driving without a trailer in-tow, and down to 12-13 when towing. We can hope to do better, but will certainly not count on it. It is obvious that you cannot have a heavy foot and expect decent mileage.

Hey, how is Fado? Maybe he and Tesla will meet someday ... what a pair!

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The Silverado 6.2L has the standard 3.73 rear end.
Hydra-Matic 6 speed
GVWR 7200 lb.
Payload 1,879 lb.
Curb wt. 5,321 lb.

I've seen reports on other forums that we might expect 17-18mpg with mixed hwy/city driving without a trailer in-tow, and down to 12-13 when towing. We can hope to do better, but will certainly not count on it. It is obvious that you cannot have a heavy foot and expect decent mileage.

Hey, how is Fado? Maybe he and Tesla will meet someday ... what a pair!

Dianne
Dianne,

The mpg are certainly doable with a little concentration, We averaged 11.5 last year on our cross-country, 5512mi, ave.sp 52mph 8.1w4:10's.
Are you planning on a weekend test drive?

Fado's doing fine, a little sad because his cousin Harley in California passed away two day's ago. So hard when they leave us.

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