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Old 02-22-2011, 02:14 PM   #29
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Since they are called "suicide doors" maybe they are dangerous, though I've never seen anyone commit suicide by falling out of them (actually I think it would be easier with front hinged doors).


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Gene they're called suicide doors because if the door is open and you're getting out and the door is hit by a passing car it slams shut forward and cuts you in half.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:34 PM   #30
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We have both a SUPER CAB 8ft and a Crewcab 8ft. The reason I got the CC 8ft was that with the SUPER CAB my grandchildren were always pokin me in da back.With the crew they have much more room and are more comfortable and so am I. The long bed gives you a little more wheelbase and thus a better ride both for you and the trailer. Then the choise is yours as too whether you get a single wheel or dually. If you are going to use both a slide in camper and a trailer I would strongly suggest a dually.
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truck camper 2500 lbs

tongue wt 11-1200 lbs

humans/cab wt 500 lbs

at 4000+ pounds of payload this really is DRW territory.

go drive a few of them, the width isn't an issue after awhile.

mirrors are same width as drw.
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one could opt for regular cab, Rwd and gas mota...

which all improve payload.

but the real limitation is the tire capacity.

4 rear tires is the primary factor that allows for real payload growth.

IF the slide IN is gonna be IN the truck most of the time, it won't be a grocery getter ne way...

?and what about the kayak? is it gonna go on the camper shell too?

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Old 02-22-2011, 04:25 PM   #32
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Gene they're called suicide doors because if the door is open and you're getting out and the door is hit by a passing car it slams shut forward and cuts you in half.
No matter where the door is, that passing car is going to make a mess of your day.

I looked it up on Wikipedia ( Suicide door - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and the entry says no one knows where the term originated, but discusses it at length. Lots of reasons, all somewhat reasonable.

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Old 02-22-2011, 05:17 PM   #33
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I recommend you go with crew cab, long bed, dually. A dually isn't much more work to manuver once you get the hang of it. I recommend you pick-up an AirSafe hitch to protect your trailer from the stiff TV suspension. I have one and my trailer thanks me for it.
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I had a 2002 Ford F250 super cab long bed and found it difficult to put anything in the back seat area especially in tight parking lots. Also anyone older than about 12 could not ride comfortably in the back seat and grown ups had a hard time getting in and out. I traded it in on a 2007 F250 Crew Cab short bed. I sometimes miss the space of the long bed, but the Crew Cab is incredible as far as space, ease of getting in and out and comfort for anyone riding in the back seat. Either extended cab or crew cab with the 8 foot bed will be difficult to park in many parking lots. I generally will back into a parking space instead of pulling straight in because it is much easer to park and also to pull out.

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Curious as to why Chevy\GMC vice Ford as a person who just did his research and for himself having found the Ford a "Hands Down Slam Dunk".

Note I said for me the Ford was best....

Have had my truck one day - WoW - King Ranch package is all that and a can of Fosters...
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:27 PM   #36
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Curious as to why...
we tried 2 help him see the light...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...-gm-68135.html

but apparently without success.

long term brand loyalty is big in the truck/domestic world...

even though he may have a VERY old blue oval somewhere.

gotta be that former gov' worker, union, red/blue state thang...

or he's just skar'd of a real truck...

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Old 02-22-2011, 07:43 PM   #37
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Different Observation

Don't know about your parking situation, but here's a consideration.

I set out to buy a Ford diesel. But when I got the specs (this was 1 1/2 years back), I discovered that by designing it to "look aggressive", they made it tall. Too tall to fit under a standard garage door opening. I've got a garage stall built to fit a Suburban I owned when we built the garage ... so I bought a GM, 'cause it fit through the door and I could park it where I wanted.

edit: I just checked and they currently specify nearly identical height figures ... but if it's important to you, do check before pluking do the cash!
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here's another idea moose'

a full size f350 pOpUP conversion van with 4x4...

towing capacity is 10,000 lbs. and there is even a pic with a stream in tow...

Sportsmobile Custom Camper Vans - Your Home Away From Home

very cool, now i want one, but WHICH 1?
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...mirrors are same width as drw....

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Yup...my 'at work' truck is an 8' bed F450 Dually...I was told it wouldn't fit in the sef' parking at the Riverview Hotel, downtown Mobile...after I had parked there 2x before...(well, it did clear by 3" on each side...)

If the Mirrors clear...drive straight and the duallys will also...so will the 'stream!

The valets still don't think it fit....

The new dually F450 rides better than my Ram 2500 EXCEPT on choppy expansion joints...but then again...it's not toting a room from the Holiday Inn Express...
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I had a 2002 Ford F-350 Crew Cab-long bed and I needed a Walmart parking lot to turn it around and backing up was a nightmare. My next truck was/is a 2008 F-250 Supercab (extended cab), short bed. It is a dream truck for manuvering, parking, backing, whatever. It is not a truck to take an adult in the back seat for more than 20 miles unless they like flying without moving. I love the advantage of the short truck. My old CC would also do the "interstate 2-step-hop" while this one doesn't. It seems the length of the CC long beds just happen to hit the seams of the concrete partitions on the interstate and do the "hop". My short truck doesn't do this. Pulling a trailer, you don't need a long bed. If you pull a 5th wheel, then that is best, but pulling an AS, just go with the extended cab and a short bed, you'll like it.
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No matter where the door is, that passing car is going to make a mess of your day.

I looked it up on Wikipedia ( Suicide door - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) and the entry says no one knows where the term originated, but discusses it at length. Lots of reasons, all somewhat reasonable.

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Hi, the way the suicide doors was explained to me was that if you were going fast and opened the door, your reaction would be to hold tightly onto the handle, the wind would pull the door open rapidly, and you would be pulled out of the car and tossed onto the roadway. [and more than likely die] Remember too, that these old cars didn't have seat belts either.
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I had a 2002 Ford F-350 Crew Cab-long bed and I needed a Walmart parking lot to turn it around and backing up was a nightmare...
in 02 they still had leaf spring up front, greatly increasing the turning radius.

since 05 they've had coil fronts, which reduced the turning radius significantly.

the new 450s actually have a smaller turning radius than a 250.

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...If the Mirrors clear...drive straight and the duallys will also...so will the 'stream!
just think of them as whiskers...

and that is actually with them IN and not extended.

fully extended and the mirrors might be a tiny bit wider than the buttisimo...

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