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07-28-2015, 06:47 PM
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1972 29' Ambassador
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1951 21' Flying Cloud
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Crash while towing down the interstate.
This was posted on a truck forum. I've never seen it, so I thought I'd share it with y'all.
Be careful out there.
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07-28-2015, 06:52 PM
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2019 23' International
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seems like the guy just kept accelerating. Normally when a system becomes unstable, the path back to stability doesn't include increasing the amount of energy in that system
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07-28-2015, 07:07 PM
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1990 25' Excella
Sisters
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My first instinct was to look for brake lights. I didn't see them so it doesn't appear he made that mistake. Hard to tell if he accelerated a bit.
John
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07-28-2015, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John&Vicki
My first instinct was to look for brake lights. I didn't see them so it doesn't appear he made that mistake. Hard to tell if he accelerated a bit.
John
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But wouldn't the brake lights go on if the driver applied the brake controller to manually engage the trailer brakes? And wouldn't that - and easing off the gas - be the right reaction?
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07-28-2015, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
But wouldn't the brake lights go on if the driver applied the brake controller to manually engage the trailer brakes? And wouldn't that - and easing off the gas - be the right reaction?
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I believe you're right about manually engaging the trailer brake controller. I don't know if that engages the brake lights or not. Anyone? I think I would maintain the throttle though as you want to tighten the string as quickly as possible.
John
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07-28-2015, 07:19 PM
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Brake lights come off the car brake light switch. Don't think trailer brakes only will light them.
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07-28-2015, 07:22 PM
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Some that I have had illuminate the lights and some didn't.
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07-28-2015, 07:22 PM
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2015 25' FB International
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He was probably going > 70 mph. Sway control system was either nonexistent or not adjusted. Instead of slowing down, he tried to finish the maneuver, perhaps even tried to accelerate. Wind might have been an issue and an unlucky "match" of TV/TT with the Truck's shape to trigger the initial sway....
Perhaps also "too much truck for a light trailer" and overconfidence that the hitch setup is irrelevant and the truck is able to pull the tt out of a tricky situation. But for all we know, it could have been a catastrophic failure of a component of the hitch, so difficult to speculate...
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07-28-2015, 07:23 PM
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Looks like he had a lot of weight hanging off the rear bumper.
Bruce
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07-28-2015, 07:49 PM
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2004 25' Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John&Vicki
I believe you're right about manually engaging the trailer brake controller. I don't know if that engages the brake lights or not. Anyone? I think I would maintain the throttle though as you want to tighten the string as quickly as possible.
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That is what you want to do. Never slow down. Hit the trailer brakes and the gas pedal! After you get it under control you can slow down, but still use the trailer brakes to keep it tight. JMHO 
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07-28-2015, 07:54 PM
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2013 31' Classic
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I believe he should change his shorts, if he did manually hit the brake controller, I do believe the brake lights would have come on, try it and see. 
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07-29-2015, 06:33 AM
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On our setup, activating the trailer brakes via the brake controller causes the trailer brake lights to come on also.
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07-29-2015, 06:37 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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How 'bout them safety chains!!
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07-29-2015, 06:56 AM
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2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Safety chains, receiver, drawbar (stinger) aint going to do nuttin in a violent situation like that....and that's probably a good thing for the TV occupants.
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07-29-2015, 06:56 AM
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2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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What is that tow vehicle?
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07-29-2015, 06:59 AM
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2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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I dunno, but for a big truck that'll roll over if you breathe on it wrong, it did a pretty good job staying upright with all sorts of non-intended instability inputs.
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07-29-2015, 07:15 AM
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2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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Kinda wimpy about stabilizing the trailer though.
Indicates to me the importance of proper loading and a high quality sway control or sway elimination hitch, and how fortunate we are to be towing Airstream trailers.
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07-29-2015, 07:17 AM
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2008 25' Classic
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The person taking the video didn't look like he was going to stop to help.
Kelvin
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07-29-2015, 07:21 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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It all comes down to knowing a units limitations and idiosyncrasies and not exceeding them or overly challenging them.
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07-29-2015, 07:24 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
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I don't care what ANYONE says, when a trailer starts swaying step off the gas and apply brakes gently to regain control. Period.
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