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Old 03-21-2010, 08:02 AM   #29
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No stink. The diesel particulate filter (DPF) removes the black soot which is what stinks. Now there is a slight bleach like odor when the truck is in regen (automated cleaning of the DPF). Regen occurs about once every tankfull for most, but some driving conditions will cause it to happen more frequently.
Sorry, that's just BS (no pun intended)....I have an '08 diesel with the paticulate filter, and the exhaust STINKS, as does the exhaust of all Diesels. You are right there is no black soot coming out of the exhaust, but it still STINKS.

I can be stopped at a red light, or even a stop sign, and if the wind is from my rear blowing the exhaust foward, I can smell the exhaust sink that the truck's fresh air system draws in.

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Diesel is much more efficient than Gas, the new Diesel's are now cleaner emissions than gas (US new models finally catching up to the German models), and the engines usually last longer!
Sorry, this isn't true of the new Diesels either. My new(er) '08 Diesel uses more fuel per mile than my '07 gasser, overall. The only time it is more efficient, and then only less than 10%, is when I'm towing. All the rest of the time, it uses more fuel.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:55 AM   #30
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Wow, what a long strange trip it has been. The verdict is in and the jury votes…..Diesel. We searched far and wide to find what we felt was the best fit for us and everyone’s input we received in this thread was extremely helpful. For that we are greatly appreciative. I would like to extend an Honorable Mention to Brian McCabe for his insight and for taking my call while we sat outside the dealership at 7:30 pm intensely pondering the purchase of a beautiful 2500 gasser while the poor sales team waited for our decision. It just felt rushed and so we decided to drive the 2 hours back home to think about it some more...

In the end, after hours and hours of reading, research, test drives, haggling with dealerships, the reason we chose Diesel came down to a simple phone call with a great friend of mine that has driven the Chevy 2500 Duramax since it was born. Granted, this call may not have carried the weight it did without all of your help, but I told him if he gets slow on work he needs to apply for a sales position at the local Chevy dealership because there was NO other option as far as he was concerned. He uses it as his daily driver, hauler, vacationer, etc. and they drive it everywhere. You know he was right; the truck is unbelievably enjoyable to drive and the noise we thought would be an issue went into the back of our minds immediately.

During one of our test drives I stuck my face near the exhaust (kids don’t try this at home) and it was not even close to the stigma that I always associated with diesel engines; it was clean. I understand we have only put 100 miles on it since we signed on the dotted line, but we haven’t smelled the first bit of diesel.

I imagine the gas mileage will not be my favorite point of discussion, but we bought it for durability, torque, and comfort when towing. Since we decided on newer models anyway, the fuel economy of the gas burners is nothing to write home about either, especially when towing.

Navigating the gauntlet of choosing the “Ultimate Tow Vehicle” can be demanding and we are grateful that is has finally ended, so without further adieu here’s our new 2010 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 Diesel!!:





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Old 03-21-2010, 10:20 AM   #31
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She sure is a beauty. Best wishes and safe travels. Your diesel experience will impact our next tow vehicle selection.

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Old 03-21-2010, 10:53 AM   #32
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Tyrinius,

You will be happy. Nice truck. I would only recommend one thing....go back to the dealer and have him exchange the side mirrors for the bigger ones that pull out to give you better visibility around the trailer.

Please report back after you have a few thousand miles on the truck, and tell us what you fuel mileage is under various driving conditions. And one thing about that...don't believe the Driver Information Console, because they lie. Do it the real way by deviding the miles driven by the fuel consumed over several tanks.
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Enough said!!



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Old 03-21-2010, 11:34 AM   #34
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Tyrinius,

You will be happy. Nice truck. I would only recommend one thing....go back to the dealer and have him exchange the side mirrors for the bigger ones that pull out to give you better visibility around the trailer.
We plan on exchanging them out within the next few weeks. I just didn't do it during the purchase to keep the dealership from hiding any additional expenses....not that they would EVER do that....
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OOPS, MY bad. Ididn't see you already made a decision. Nice truck......Stream Safe.

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Ty...great choice...your towing experience just got a whole lot more relaxing! Towing with the Allison is...amazing?!

BTW; you will not get any "gas" mileage with your diesel...at least not on purpose!

Those Folks that claim deezul stinks, I notice they are likely driving a gasser...and I don't like sniffin' gas fumes any more than I like sniffin deezul fumes...my drug of choice is endorphins.

Lots of Folks go gasser because they don't want to commit to the truck, the RV lifestyle, etc...when you buy a diesel, you really are making a long term commitment...for many reasons...you considered all this, took your time, and made a great choice.

Load up (as much as you want!) and go Streamin'

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Nice truck Tyrinius. Looks like a carbon copy of mine! Is it an LTZ? Good luck with it and happy towing.
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Nice truck.

Hi, I'm sure you will be happy with your decission; Do make sure you get the trailer towing mirrors. I didn't have that choice with my tow vehicle so I have to use slip-ons.
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Sorry, that's just BS (no pun intended)....I have an '08 diesel with the paticulate filter, and the exhaust STINKS, as does the exhaust of all Diesels. You are right there is no black soot coming out of the exhaust, but it still STINKS.

I can be stopped at a red light, or even a stop sign, and if the wind is from my rear blowing the exhaust foward, I can smell the exhaust sink that the truck's fresh air system draws in.
Steve,

If you smell diesel from your truck then perhaps you have the dreaded turbo downpipe misalignment problem. If you do, there will be a signature diesel smell because the exhaust is leaking before it reaches the catalist and the dpf. If you don't believe me, search the diesel forums and you will find truth in what I say.

Sure there is a smell from the exhaust if I run my truck in a semi enclosed area, but so would a gas engine produce a smell - only different. However it does not have the old diesel bus odor at all.

On another note, my truck repeatedly gets 20/21 mpg on the highway (70 mph) unloaded not towing. When towing on the highway (65 mph), the worst was 11 and the best was 15 including some Adirondack runs. I suspect that crossing the Rockies will produce less stellar results.
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Sorry, that's just BS (no pun intended)....I have an '08 diesel with the paticulate filter, and the exhaust STINKS, as does the exhaust of all Diesels. You are right there is no black soot coming out of the exhaust, but it still STINKS.

I can be stopped at a red light, or even a stop sign, and if the wind is from my rear blowing the exhaust foward, I can smell the exhaust sink that the truck's fresh air system draws in.



Sorry, this isn't true of the new Diesels either. My new(er) '08 Diesel uses more fuel per mile than my '07 gasser, overall. The only time it is more efficient, and then only less than 10%, is when I'm towing. All the rest of the time, it uses more fuel.
Sorry Buddy - but we are gonna have to agree to disagree...

Diesel has more "power per volume" than gas - simple fact...

The emissions from the new TDI based vehicles (European and the soon to be released US engines) not only are pretty much odorless, but don't even leave a stain as can be seen via this test...
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Diesel has more "power per volume" than gas - simple fact...
Hi, educate me on this fact please. It seems to me that, for example, a diesel having the same horsepower as my 5.4 L gas engine needs to be 6.7 L in size; Although the Diesel will have nearly double the torque. On the other hand, The Diesel is useing a blower or turbo charger to assist it and if my gas engine had a blower/turbo charger, my horsepower and torque would be increased considerably. [and still be a smaller engine] These engines need to be on the same playing field, such as cubic inches and naturally asperated or both blown.

Note: Isn't the Audi Diesel race car allowed more cubic inches than the same class gas powered cars?


Maybe this needs to be another thread, but for now it's here.
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Hi, educate me on this fact please. It seems to me that, for example, a diesel having the same horsepower as my 5.4 L gas engine needs to be 6.7 L in size; Although the Diesel will have nearly double the torque. On the other hand, The Diesel is useing a blower or turbo charger to assist it and if my gas engine had a blower/turbo charger, my horsepower and torque would be increased considerably. [and still be a smaller engine] These engines need to be on the same playing field, such as cubic inches and naturally asperated or both blown.

Note: Isn't the Audi Diesel race car allowed more cubic inches than the same class gas powered cars?


Maybe this needs to be another thread, but for now it's here.
There's nothing magic about swept volume... the diesels tend to be a bit bigger so they have better low end torque (flatter power curve)... and peak power is limited by what people tend to do with them - find a giant 5th wheel and pull it over the Rockies at 70 mph - which will overtax the transmission and radiator if the engine is built for too much top end.

Diesel engines are much more efficient at part load, since there's no throttle plate and no need for stoichiometric mixtures for ignition.
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