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Old 11-14-2014, 04:21 PM   #15
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Can a 2014 Toyota Highlander pull a 16' bambi?

I'm not surprised that you would pull one little nugget out of paper to give evidence to your beliefs, without considering any other variable. With all being equal, yes physics is what it is....a large mass being towed by a smaller mass will be less stable past some calculated speed. However, we know that everything isn't equal. Interesting that you don't mention impact of TV CoG on stability or emergency avoidance, TV steering compliance, the effect of TV mass on understeer gradient, the impact of suspension design, tire compounds, TV/TT tire stiffness, length between hitch point and rear axle, weight distribution across the entire combination, trailer weight distribution....not to mention braking power/TV weight ratios.

"Even for a specific vehicle-trailer combination, most of these parameters can be greatly altered by changing parameters that are in control of the user, such as weight distribution or tire type and tire pressure. Hence, stability of the vehicle-trailer combination cannot be guaranteed by selecting the passive design parameters, thus necessitating an active control approach."

OP, a Highlander with the tow package will be a great combination. Without it, you may need some assistance with cooling. It also has a decent payload (~1500lbs) for SUV/CUV compared to some 1/2 tonne pickups. A family member used a Highlander to successfully tow a large Hybrid trailer that was horribly balanced with the worst aerodynamics imaginable.
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Old 11-14-2014, 04:30 PM   #16
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To answer the OP's original question simply: Yes, a 2015 Toyota Highlander Limited will tow a 16' Sport.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:15 PM   #17
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We tow our FC-19 with our 2013 Highlander Limited with the OEM Tow Package. We have an Equalizer hitch.
Some of our favorite places to go involve long, uphill tows, as we live in the Willamette Valley. This arrangement tows like a dream. I have had people question it, upon arrival at a campground... Mostly people with big pick-up rigs. They are shocked that we hardly notice we are towing the FC on the flat, and rarely even slow down on the hills (less than 5-degrees or so). Even on the steepest grades, it climbs well and we have not had any overheating. Braking on the downhill is equally effective.
Before we purchased the SUV, we questioned if we could tow the FC with it. We had a 2008 Highlander that had an aftermarket receiver, but a "pre-tow" package, before this one (we love Highlanders). When we went to the 2013, the Toyota dealer was very positive regarding the setup. The brake controller system was installed when we picked it up.
To answer your question, I would consider going to the dealer to see if you can make a swap to another Highlander with the OEM system, since your car is still a 2015. That is probably what you do not want to do, but seriously recommend it. We are so happy with ours that paying a bit more would certainly beat going with a pickup, or gas guzzling bigger SUV, if you don't otherwise need one. Ours is great, with 3-rows of seating (convertible) and tons of inside storage. We averaged 16 mpg on our last trip from Eugene to Monterey and back, towing the FC. We normally average between 19-25 Mpg without the trailer. Ours is a 3.5 V-6.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:24 PM   #18
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"i.e., the heavier the trailer reference the tow vehicle, the less stability. conversely, the heavier the tow vehicle reference the trailer, the more stable.
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Of course science, technology, etc has progressed past this overly simplistic analogy.

But..... if everything about a combination is wrong or out of wack the quote would probably apply.
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Thank you all so much! Cruizindux knows more than the Toyota dealership! Turns out the Toyota Highlander XLE model, which is the one we have, comes standard with the towing package (larger radiator and transmission cooler) and can pull up to 5000 pounds once a hitch is installed. Our owner's manual and the sales person at Toyota were unclear about that. All's well that ends well - we are now off to purchase our first Bambi!!
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Best of luck to the OP. Highlander is a great vehicle.

Also, the quote about the relation between relative tow vehicle/trailer weight and stability is 100% accurate. Any mechanical engineer could explain that to you easily.
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:08 PM   #21
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Also, the quote about the relation between relative tow vehicle/trailer weight and stability is 100% accurate. Any mechanical engineer could explain that to you easily.

What is the point of this post? I don't need an engineer (or you) to explain this to me. If you read beyond your myopic view you might have noticed that nobody debated the simple physics. However, you also conveniently failed to continue reading and missed the point....that there are many more variables that go into stability outside of mass.
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do we get the clearcoat?

Bought the Bambi!! Only remaining question is do we get the clear coat for $1,600? Does it work or is it a sham?
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:42 AM   #23
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NO!
Put that $1,600 toward camping trips!
Why do they try to getcha?
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Bought the Bambi!!
Sounds good!!! Thinking you are going to luv the Airstream ownership experience and the Highlander/Air combo.
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What is the point of this post? I don't need an engineer (or you) to explain this to me. If you read beyond your myopic view you might have noticed that nobody debated the simple physics. However, you also conveniently failed to continue reading and missed the point....that there are many more variables that go into stability outside of mass.
Yes, there is a good article in the Summer AS Magazine that actually prefers a tested Chev. SUV over the Chev. Tahoe. The Tahoe was the one with the heavier vehicle weight and more HP. I noticed that one of the deciding factors was the lower aspect of the towing vehicle.

I'm not big on dealing with all the science, but was very assured (and, relieved) by reading this article. Of course, we are only towing a FC-19 with our Highlander. Much bigger (contrary to the article, actually) and I'd be looking at more power. That is not based totally on science or recommendation, just intuition. We Germans seem to be able to do that (joke).
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Check the Summer 2014 AS magazine for comparison between two Chevrolet SUVs. The lighter vehicle won ... Surprised me! Dave
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Highlander towing a Bambi 16

Ive been towing my 2013 Bambi Sport 16 for 2 years now with my 2013 Toyota Highlander using an Equalizer set up. I have had zero issues towing and I get about 14 to 15 miles per gallon. Milage varies based on how many climbs I have. I tow from Washington DC city traffic to Shenandoah National park with ease. I bought an electric brake controller and the Toyota dealership installed it for me. I love this combination. I've been in stop and go traffic, country roads, highway, and mountain roads, all with out concern.
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The Highlander is a very nice vehicle, but expensive. I wish we could afford one. Since we could not afford a Highlander, Sequoia, Sienna, or 4-runner we got an Avalon. The Avalon is a beautiful car, but it is still a car- sits low- difficult egress- maybe next time we can get a Sienna van. Next time the house and camper will be paid for.
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