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Old 08-20-2013, 09:33 PM   #1
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Can a 2013 Tundra tow a 34' Airstream Classic Limited? (specs for TV and AS included)

Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if a 2013 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 5.7L V8 can safely and comfortably tow a 1991 Airstream Limited Classic 34' Travel Trailer. I've been looking for a concrete answer for weeks, but can't find a definitive answer from someone who's an authority on the subject. Please help!

Here are the specs and capacities for the Tundra:
2013 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 5.7L V8
4.30 Rear Differential Ratio
Curb Weight = 5,335 lbs
GVWR = 7,000 lbs
Max Payload = 1,330 lbs
Tongue Weight Capacity = 1,040 lbs.
Max Towing Capacity = 9,900 lbs.
Max GCWR = 15,860 lbs.

Here are the specs for the 1991 Airstream Classic Limited 34':
Dry Weight = 7,300 lbs.
Hitch Weight = 800 lbs.
GVWR = 8,900 lbs.

Please help! I've been racking my brain to figure this one out. I think it would work and most of the sales people think it'll work, but I'd like to find out from someone who's an authority on the subject and with them reviewing all of the specs that I have on the Tow Vehicle and the Travel Trailer. I will be taking the trailer up some steep grades thru the Smokey Mountains in Tennessee from time to time, so please keep that in mind when giving advice.


Thank you sooooo much!

Jeremy
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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Wow, you would be near max...then include hills and other traffic.... Also what goes up must come down. Brakes, plenty of them are crucial. You can't "feather" electric brakes on AS as they will likely fail to hold well enough. Will someone help verify the brakes are up to the trip? What brake controller?

There are so many variables... Experience towing? Condition of AS tires, etc. how long have you owned the AS? How many towed miles?

Have you tried "sudden" stops? How do TV and AS behave? All brakes skid same?

Are you really serious?
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:48 PM   #3
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I own 34 foot and can tell you that you will not be happy with Toyota pulling that trailer you need 3/4 ton or more suspension and brakes to be happy.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:56 PM   #4
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We really do want to help. Please, think this through. That is a LOT of weight to handle. My 2012 Silverado Duramax 2500 4x4 is up to the task. Just FYI.

I have the tow, engine brake, heavy duty braking, etc. I went through some mild hills in Arkansas and handled well. Never a spooky moment.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:05 PM   #5
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You don't mention the wheelbase of your truck. Long wheelbase goes a long way in adding stability. Look online (sorry I don't have the link) for discussions about wheelbase. I also have a spreadsheet that might help, but I'm new to this site and I don't know how to insert an Excell file. By most accounts, a 3/4 ton Suburban is marginal with a 34 - stiffer, longer wheelbase 3/4 ton pick-up is preferred...

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Old 08-20-2013, 10:14 PM   #6
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Here are the specs and capacities for the Tundra:
2013 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 5.7L V8
4.30 Rear Differential Ratio
Curb Weight = 5,335 lbs
GVWR = 7,000 lbs
Max Payload = 1,330 lbs
Tongue Weight Capacity = 1,040 lbs.
Max Towing Capacity = 9,900 lbs.
Max GCWR = 15,860 lbs.

Here are the specs for the 1991 Airstream Classic Limited 34':
Dry Weight = 7,300 lbs.
Hitch Weight = 800 lbs.
GVWR = 8,900 lbs.
Add the GVWR of the truck to the GVWR of the Trailer and this equals 15,900 which is just over the GCWR of the truck(15860). The GVWR of the truck includes fuel, passengers, and payload (including hitch weight), and should not be exceeded. The GVWR of the trailer includes the trailer dry weight plus gear, water, propane etc.. With a trailer GVWR of 8900 minus the trailer dry weight, this means you can carry 1600 lbs in the trailer.

If you carried no passengers, no gear and no water or propane, You could probably get away with it, but that won't happen! Since it looks like you already have the trailer and are looking for a new truck, you should go with an F250, 2500 or similar.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:31 PM   #7
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Jeremy,

If you want to read something interesting about what tow vehicles can be used with which trailers, have a read of this thread.

The following link starts at about post #57, where the discussion gets interesting.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...ml#post1235882 There's a lot to read, but it's worth the effort.

Andrew T is the owner or Canada's largest Airstream dealership, and regularly writes for several RV magazines, usually about towing. Also, he is regularly invited to speak at the annual Allumapalooza event that Airstream has on their property at the plant in Jacksom Center, OH.

His father founded Can-Am RV about 30 years ago, and Andrew and his brother have run it since he retired.

He has set up literally thousands of tow vehicles and trailers, and freely shares his experiences with those who wish to hear it.

He did super job of connecting Henri, our '74 Sovereign, to the 2005 Ford Freestar that we bought on Andrew's recommendation, and that is the only way I know him, as a very satisfied customer.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:30 PM   #8
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Jeremy

I have an 08 Tundra 2we, double cab, 5.7L, six speed and I love it. My trailer only weighs 4800 lbs yet when the truck and trailer are loaded with people, dogs, bikes, camping gear, fuel, etc I am within 200 lbs of the truck gvwr and the rear axle weight rating. This is the weak link with the Toyota and all other 1/2 ton trucks. Now having said all this, I also have an 84 3 1' Excella 500. When I get it ready to camp, I will tow it with my Tundra.

I wish I had a 34'. It may weigh 1000lb more than my 31 but it has 50% more tires and brakes.

I recommend talking to Andy. I trust his judgement, experience and knowledge.

Good luck.

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Size Really Doesn't Necessarily Matter

Andrew Thomson set up my assembly (see avatar) 12 years and ~35,000+ miles ago. The tow vehicle is a 5,000# 2001 BMW X5 with a 4.4L V8 making ~300 hp and ~350 #' of torque. The Airstream is a 2002 31' Classic Limited with a GVWR of 8,300# and a tongue weight with Hensley of ~900#.

If my stinkin little SUV can do it, your big 5.7L V8 should work out just fine. Toyota makes well engineered vehicles. Search on "withidl" for more on my assembly.
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I'm no expert on what truck can tow what trailer but as others have said, we know a man who is. Have a chat with Andy at Can Am, he'll sort you out.

In the mean time, watch these videos to see other vehicles towing a 34' Airstream:

Can-Am RV Centre | Your Towing Experts
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:48 PM   #11
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I have towed my 1986 '31 Sovereign over 50000 miles in the past 9 years. It has been weighed in full travel trim at just under 8k pounds. My TV is a 2004 Nissan Titan 1/2 ton which just passed 157000 on the odometer. Lots of climbing and descending...

I did upgrade the brakes to slotted/dimpled rotors so they are almost as good as the stock Tundra brakes.

Never a white knuckle moment. The few "oh sh**" stops were straight and true. Going downhill is a matter of common sense, using the "tow haul" mode properly and energy management.

That said, I will say that I am a weight "miser" -- we don't carry everything we might conceivably need only those things we probably will need.

Every year, we toss out some more things that we concluded were superfluous.

I think you can do what you propose as long as you mind your weight and get a good hitch and brake controller.

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Old 08-21-2013, 06:33 AM   #12
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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback! The tundra I'm looking at is a crewmax, so it has a short 5.5' bed. Sounds like I need to find Andy with Can Am RV and get his advice. Anyone know how Ivan reach him? Thanks again! Jeremy
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This guy did it with a Tundra...

2009 Panamerica - Airstream Trailer Classifieds - Airstream Trailers For Sale
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I'm no expert on what truck can tow what trailer but as others have said, we know a man who is. Have a chat with Andy at Can Am, he'll sort you out.

In the mean time, watch these videos to see other vehicles towing a 34' Airstream:

Can-Am RV Centre | Your Towing Experts
They'd be the last people I'd ask for advice.

What I saw in the videos was the work of an 'Expert salesman'.
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