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Old 10-16-2013, 03:51 PM   #85
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They may still be considering a diesel.
In 2008 before the market crash they were considering a 1 ton diesel dually.
It was to have a 6 cylinder diesel from Hino which I believe is a medium duty commercial truck division of Toyota.
It was a good looking truck.
Don't get me wrong, i think the 6.6 Duramax/Allison is a top-notch rig.
I just can't afford/justify owning one personally.
We have 5 at work, 2 of which I bought personally.
A 2006 originally purchased by the owner at $54,000.
2 2006's bought by our maintenance manager at about $23,000.
A 2007 bought by me at $23,000.
A 2010 bought by me at $26,000.
4 out of 5 of these trucks were super clean.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:55 PM   #86
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I have the biggest, heaviest Airstream currently manufactured as far as I know and tow it with a Tundra anywhere and everywhere just fine. I tried to by a used 3 axle 34' Airstream one time. Guess what I intended to tow it with? The guy I tried to buy it from towed with a Lincoln Avigator.
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Interesting comment, apparently Toyota changed their minds about diesel, as they are supposed to start using a V8 Cummins for 2014...
They have been back and forth on the Diesel engine for several years. On and off; off and on! When I inquired in 2010 about more power from the 5.7L, the service manager suggested adding a Toyota Racing Development turbo charger to be able to SELECTIVELY dial in more horsepower and torque when it's needed. Costs less than a Diesel engine AND runs on gas. Power when needed. The latest is Toyota is thinking more on offering Diesel: http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/toyo...or-tundra.html Now, this would really bring heat to the light duty truck competition! REMEMBER when everyone didn't take Toyota serious in luxury cars or TRUCKS?
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They have been back and forth on the Diesel engine for several years. On and off; off and on! When I inquired in 2010 about more power from the 5.7L, the service manager suggested adding a Toyota Racing Development turbo charger to be able to SELECTIVELY dial in more horsepower and torque when it's needed. Costs less than a Diesel engine AND runs on gas. Power when needed. The latest is Toyota is thinking more on offering Diesel: www.edmunds.com/car-news/toyota-eyes-cummins-diesel-engine-for-tundra.html Now, this would really bring heat to the light duty truck competition! REMEMBER when everyone didn't take Toyota serious in luxury cars or TRUCKS?
If I had a million dollars...
I'd be rich!
I would love to have the TRD supercharger and dual exhaust, but the truck has plenty of power naturally aspirated.
With the supercharger and dual exhaust and computer remap the Tundra is 500 hp.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:59 PM   #89
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Torque is the key to pulling not horsepower contrary to popular belief.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:09 PM   #90
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Yes, low end torque is essential.
As you do modifications that increase horsepower torque goes up a little as well.
There is something to be said for a pickup with a 6 second 0-60 and a 14 second quarter-
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I think the stock Tundra with 400 lb ft of torque is plenty for any Airstream.
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I think the stock Tundra with 400 lb ft of torque is plenty for any Airstream.
For sure! No complaint on my end. The 6-speed transmission solves many up and down grade shifting challenges on big Airstream's. As was pointed out, the stock torque is great -- however, the TRD supercharger ponies are pure FUN! Have shocked many guys AND dolls off the line...
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Superchargers are designed for low end torque as they are a positive displacement design. Above a specific rpm, the drag of the rotors will start generating negative increases in power.

A turbocharger will keep increasing power as it can continue to spool up to higher Roma. The limit may be an automatic bypass valve at a specific boost pressure or when the head gasket blows.
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Superchargers are designed for low end torque as they are a positive displacement design. Above a specific rpm, the drag of the rotors will start generating negative increases in power. A turbocharger will keep increasing power as it can continue to spool up to higher Roma. The limit may be an automatic bypass valve at a specific boost pressure or when the head gasket blows.
EXACTLY, low-end (get-it-moving) power! It's the whole point exactly: Moving dead weight at the start and getting to cruising speed(s). I'm sure most comprehend the concept. Used properly, TC's aid gas or Diesel engines. Done wrong, yes, they DO blow up. /;-)
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:53 PM   #95
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I want one-
If I had a million dollars...
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Jeremy, Did you ever get ahold of Andy to find an answer to your towing question?
I also have a 13 Tundra and am getting a 30' Classic. Very interested in his thoughts.

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Old 10-19-2013, 06:30 AM   #97
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I don't know "Andy's" thoughts, but "michael" says you can do it. I do it every day.
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Interesting read /discussion / dissertation. Good luck and safe towing to the OP.

I believe in torque, but in my case the truck came before the AS was even an idea for me. One of my favorite torque demonstrations is how I can get my rig in motion from a standing start. Select 1st gear (manual) NO ADDED FUEL MY FOOT IS NOT ON THE GO PEDAL smoothly bring the clutch pedal up, rig is rolling, Cummins did its job.

See ya' round the campfire some day.
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