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Old 02-14-2010, 08:45 AM   #15
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This car looks like the GL class. Anybody out there that could tell his/her experience towing a large AS?
Rich Luhr, publisher of Airstream Life, tows his (IIRC) 30' Bunkhouse with a GL320 Bluetec. He's been very happy - he mentions it in his blog.

I've used one for towing - but only to tow my 2000 lb T@B teardrop. As you'd expect, it had no problems towing that.

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Old 02-14-2010, 08:56 AM   #16
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I tow our 20' Safari with my 2005 ML500 and love it. I know someone who happily tows a 25' with newer ML. The GL gives a bit more wheelbase and capacity.
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Old 02-14-2010, 04:24 PM   #17
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Air Hitches

I was just reading about the Air Safe Hitches. Would they make a difference as far as pushing the envelope of the towing capacity of my vehicle?
I know nothing about hitches but the air bag style concept sounds like it could eliminate a lot of the duress on the TV from a large AS.

Any thoughts on those?
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I too want an Air Safe hitch but thats not going to help your situation.
They are designed to isolate the shock and vibration from damaging the trailer but wont help with the tongue weight. The airbag is inside the hitch/ball mechanism giving the tongue of the trailer and easy ride...

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I wouldn't tow with the MB

As a longtime MB owner with past experience, I wouldn't do it. For towing any distances over 50-100 miles, the suspension is too compliant, the wheelbase too short, the hitch platform not strong enough and the experience will not be pleasant. The MB has the power, but the rest of the truck is not setup to tow that size trailer.

My Range Rover was the same way...it had the power, but nothing else going for it. I would arrive exhausted from fighting with the vehicle and the trailer. I ended up blowing a head gasket...thankfully it was under warranty.

Use the MB for around town and buy a pick-up or full-size SUV to tow the A/S. That's what I did and am a lot happier and more relaxed when I we head out to the wilderness.
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Comparing a Range Rover to an AMG MB is apples to oranges... NA.
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Hi Gamana

We have set up a couple of G wagons with Airstreams and they perform much better than I thought they would. The second one we did we tried with a few different sizes and the customer purchased a 30' Classic. They have done extensive towing and have no issues at all, they are very pleased with their combination.

I would strongly recomend a Hensley hitch with it which also allows you to leave the spare tire where it belongs and eliminates any sway fromt the live axle suspensions.

The vehicle is bullet proof, made for the desert so I don't understand anyone having a cooling problem unless there was something wrong with the fan controller. I thought I might have a picture but I don't it looked cool with the Airstream.

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As a longtime MB owner with past experience, I wouldn't do it. For towing any distances over 50-100 miles, the suspension is too compliant, the wheelbase too short, the hitch platform not strong enough and the experience will not be pleasant. The MB has the power, but the rest of the truck is not setup to tow that size trailer.

My Range Rover was the same way...it had the power, but nothing else going for it. I would arrive exhausted from fighting with the vehicle and the trailer. I ended up blowing a head gasket...thankfully it was under warranty.

Use the MB for around town and buy a pick-up or full-size SUV to tow the A/S. That's what I did and am a lot happier and more relaxed when I we head out to the wilderness.
I agree with Road Ruler. Can't really compare a RR with an AMG G55.

Jacebeck, you mention MB but what models are u referring to? ML, GL or G (500 OR 55)?
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airsafe=MORE problems with sway and more weight than payload...

so with the merc' that would be EVEN MORE bad.

the rr/g wagon comparison is actually a good one, jacebeck...

thanks for posting!

especially the 1st generation rover produced till the mid 90s...

and based on a 1970s design...

POWER of course was lacking in those rovers but many other 'features' are similar....

the old ROVER would make a wonderful tv...

especially the version modified as a fire tender...

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i'm sure a 3rd axle, wheels and tires can be added to the merc'

THAT would be cool.

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I think this post sums it up quite nicely.
agree completely!

perhaps this was the linked image 450 intended...

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airsafe=MORE problems with sway and more weight than payload...

so with the merc' that would be EVEN MORE bad.

the rr/g wagon comparison is actually a good one, jacebeck...

thanks for posting!

especially the 1st generation rover produced till the mid 90s...

and based on a 1970s design...

POWER of course was lacking in those rovers but many other 'features' are similar....

the old ROVER would make a wonderful tv...

especially the version modified as a fire tender...

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i'm sure a 3rd axle, wheels and tires can be added to the merc'

THAT would be cool.

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Can you imagine the man hours someone put into that RR.
It looks cool but worth nothing down the road.. wonder how it wheels?

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I'm almost ready to believe that it's a real photo, but I have a nagging sensation that either Too-Ayre or a friend of his has tinkered with the universe slightly to bring us that foto.

Perhaps it has been, how you say, Photoshoppé un petit peu?

One never knows 4-sher with a photo at that resolution, so I could be wrong...
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I'm almost ready to believe that it's a real photo...
real vs faux?

shirley u jest!

the carmichaels international 6-wheel fire tender is (or was) the real deal.

the carmichaels built/modifed the chassis, adding the 3rd axle.

these were typically used as airstrip fire/rescue trucks with a body added for that purpose.

my understanding is that they often had a water pump/hose thing mounted at the front...

that was powered via the driveshaft...

Range Rover Fire-Tender

and as with MOST things strange AND vehicular...

there's a club for the owners...

The SixAppealWheelGroup

photochopped? hardly!

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...wonder how it wheels?

Vin
no 1st hand experience here vin' but my guess is that it wheels somewhat like...

a short 'stream moho with a tag axle...

keep in mind AIRstrips tend to be straight outnback things...

(notice the air connections)

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