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Old 07-15-2015, 05:47 PM   #85
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Even $800 for a folding cover is too close to the price of a cap.
I've decided against the folding cover due to leaks and the cardboard in between the plastic getting saturated and too heavy to lift.


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Old 07-15-2015, 05:50 PM   #86
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I have a Truxedo soft cover now on my Tundra.

My last several trucks have all had fiberglass caps (ARE).

I like being able to see much easier behind me with the soft cover (when not towing) which along with the much lower price is what prompted me to go this route.

But now that I am hauling around two Honda 2000 generators and other gear, I wish that I had gone with a hard lockable top. A hard top makes it much easier , plus I would be able to stack up some lighter gear higher than I can with the soft top.

Next time around I will get a hard full shell.

I have had the soft covers with the snaps on 3 trucks. Wanna do better than that this time. When they get old, they shrink and get harder to snap. It takes a lot of ArmorAll to keep them looking nice. The threads in the seams begin yo rot and unravel.


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Even $800 for a folding cover is too close to the price of a cap.
I've decided against the folding cover due to leaks and the cardboard in between the plastic getting saturated and too heavy to lift.


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I have a soft cover now that I need to replace at some point. Leaning toward a cap for the reasons you mention.
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:09 PM   #88
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cap vs tonneau

I spent about 5 months looking at both and decided on a shell. One reason was the side of the bed is so high I can't load or unload from the side even without a cover and it is easier to crawl up into a cover. I got lucky and found a used truck dealer on Craigslist that sells camper shells separately from the trucks he gets. He saikd he gets no extra $$ if he sells it with the truck. I got an ARE for my 2013 Tundra with the correct color, installed for $800.

Visibility straight back is not an issue but it is down an isle on the passenger side. I also noticed after installing it that I now feel cross winds slightly on the rear of the truck which I did not feel before. I have towed with it for 9,000 miles in the past year and would absolutely go shell again for the extra storage and security.
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:49 PM   #89
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m.hony, I had a shell for 17 years. Loved it. Became my garage. But then I had an F-250 with lots of spare payload. With my new Ram 1500, I went with a Retrax. Spent as much as I would have with a shell, but kept my payload under specs. It does not leak, and can lock into any position, for the times you want to haul something tall. And I do not have to crawl in to get something in the front of the bed. In the matt black finish, it matches the factory bed rails. It looks really good. Although, not as good as a color matched shell. FYI.
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Old 07-15-2015, 06:59 PM   #90
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I vote for the cap. Did you consider an Aluminum cap? They have carriers for the top and come in different heights and window configurations.
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Old 07-15-2015, 07:38 PM   #91
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The mid rise is only 3-4" higher than the cab high. It may take a slight mpg penalty not towing, but I imagine towing mpg will be the same. The wind resistance will take 2 smaller steps to get over the trailer as opposed to one big step.

You'll add 10% or more to your annual fuel budget.

It's not as much the wind entry as it is the taller rear. Combined, it will add up. Crosswinds will exact an extra penalty when at 3/4 to direction of travel.

By contrast, an aero topper is cab height and convex-curves down to just a few inches above the tailgate.

See "Aerolid" on Google search for pics.

There is just not that much more space enclosed, nor is it any easier to access.

You'll get what you want, but consider the penalties going past cab height versus actual benefit.

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Old 07-15-2015, 07:54 PM   #92
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Re: Tonneau & bed cap - Had both, but prefer bed cap

We had one of these for six years: Lazer Lite Xtreme Flat aluminum tonneau cover

Then, we bought folding mountain bikes, and they wouldn't fit under the tonneau cover. So, we bought one of these (cab height, with white panel instead of smoked glass in rear window): SNUGPro commercial fiberglass bed cap

Very satisfied with both. No leaks with either one, but a little water and dust gets in around tailgate due to Toyota design, which is not the fault of the covers.

Wish we had gotten the bed cap instead of the tonneau cover, because that would have saved us buying the second cover. If weight is a concern, you don't have to fill the bed cap to the top. However, it's nice to have the extra space when you need it. Plus, everything is out of sight.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:14 PM   #93
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You'll add 10% or more to your annual fuel budget.

It's not as much the wind entry as it is the taller rear. Combined, it will add up. Crosswinds will exact an extra penalty when at 3/4 to direction of travel.

By contrast, an aero topper is cab height and convex-curves down to just a few inches above the tailgate.

See "Aerolid" on Google search for pics.

There is just not that much more space enclosed, nor is it any easier to access.

You'll get what you want, but consider the penalties going past cab height versus actual benefit.

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The truck is a 2007 with 47,000 miles. It had 8,000 miles when I bought it used in 2008. In 7 years I have put on 39,000 miles. That is about 5,500 miles per year. I'm not really worried about increased fuel cost.
One reason for choosing the mid rise cap is the goofy roof line of the Tundra. The roof is higher over the front seat area and curves down toward the back glass. A cab high cap is actually lower than the highest point of the roof- kinda sorta why I always thought the Nissan Armada was ugly- the curved roof line over the front and back seat that flattened out to lower than that over the carb area at the back.
Maybe the bikes will stand upright in a mid rise. Maybe they won't. If they would, that would be a plus. The bikes would be in out of the weather. If not, the Fiamma bike rack would be a good idea.
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Alright. I don't run many miles either.

I have found in my Dodge while towing that when I have a semi passing I do not feel the bow wave (with my sensitive for a truck rack & pinion steering) due to the Hensley, but I definitely do when the wave reaches the truck with the increased sail area the topper adds on an eight foot bed.

Installing a rear anti roll bar where OEM did not provide one on the rear (and increasing the size of the front) helped this, but a Panhard Rod is on the list. Already had Bilstein shocks.

The sail area increase causes the side of the truck on the bow wave side to rise, as well as move away.

As the roof/wall on these toppers are not radiused to one another as are the trailers, we are increasing the pressure against the tire contact patch.

A sudden hard gust WILL get your attention.

Get us some pics once installed.
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This thread reminds me that I once thought a utility bed with a cap would be useful but not as soothing to the eyes as a regular bed and cap.
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I just took my new combo TT & TV on their maiden voyage together. The new addition is the 2015 Ram 3500 Quad Cab Long Bed with a "pickup pack" from Highway Products (Pickup Packs by Highway Products Inc.), with the side tool boxes, domed bed lid, headache rack (with back lumber/boat rack, not shown) and roller bed. I loved it. Easy access, doesn't block view, lots of room and good security (heavy aluminum with mortise locks and nothing visible). Here are some pics:
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Old 07-16-2015, 05:41 AM   #97
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I saw something like that on Amazon, but not for my 5.5' bed. There are more options for a 6.5' or 8' bed.
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We went from the TonnoPro to the ARE CX cap. There is a slight loss of visibility, but I'm finding it so much easier to carry bulky stuff around especially when towing. No regrets, and I can still fit into the garage.
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