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Old 11-22-2013, 11:29 AM   #57
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- Relating big payload and trailer size needs to his unknown needs. Some people travel extensively without big loads in the truck bed and the trailer. We do.

- Showing hitch weights inaccurately measured below the trailer tongue jack, rather than where it rests on the truck receiver. Not mentioning whether a 150# Hensley/ProPride is attached to the tongue.

- Disregarding the tongue weight transferred to the trailer axles by a good weight distribution hitch.

Many, many of us tow with 1/2 ton trucks and SUV's without compromises to safety or personal needs. Modern SUV's and vans with fully independent suspension are most probably more stable than the trucks when properly hitched, can stop shorter. And big ol' trucks, as much as we love them, are not the most fun to maneuver as daily drivers, or buy fuel for.

Traveling light is clearly not for everybody, but we strive for it. I feel loaded down these days, miss the many years of VW vans we toured with.
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Old 11-22-2013, 12:47 PM   #58
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Doug,

Are we?....I'm not.

I haven't commented +or- on anyones personal preferences.

Nothings been overlooked, the weight transferred is mentioned in my post.
"Our weight distributing hitch transfers between 160-200lbs to the trailer axles depending on load."

What IS disregarded is our factory stated TW of 760Lbs...a pipe dream at best.

The tongue weight is accurate, within 4" of the ball center.
The scale is calibrated in 50 lbs increments.
.....the haha head weighs 100lbs.
I'm no Archimedes, but I don't' believe I'm off by much.

I really feel bad if I offended you.

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Old 11-23-2013, 10:43 AM   #59
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I am in almost the same predicament as CPTKEL. Our homeowner's association does not allow pickup trucks to be parked in the neighborhood. We don't have a garage so we need to find a TV that will tow a 27 or 28 ft. Airstream. I currently own an Infiniti QX 56 with a towing capacity of 8,500 lbs. Can any one suggest a TV with more capacity?
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:47 AM   #60
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Scroll down on this link and you will get an overview of how it was equipped when new. It does have the HD tow option. At 8 years I would replace the factory receiver.(hitch) This concern goes beyond the 2002 model year....2008. You could also call and see if the dealer has a VISS check available for the vehicle. A complete survey would give you all the options, warranty repair history, build sheet, everything highlighted in the heading on this one for our Burb. There is also an option sticker in the glove box that lists all options in code form. Each number is decoded on the VISS build sheet. They are also available online. On edit... It will need clip-on towing mirrors or the factory style upgrade, also you'll have to install the larger wheelhouse flaps, especially rear. It does have LT tires, can't make out the load range though. It sure looks like a pretty clean vehicle at reasonable mileage. Bob
The towing Mirrors I'm sure won't be a problem. What are the larger wheelhouse flaps you talk about?

I'm going to call the dealer today to check on a VISS. Any other good information I should get before driving to see this one?
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:24 PM   #61
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The towing Mirrors I'm sure won't be a problem. What are the larger wheelhouse flaps you talk about?

I'm going to call the dealer today to check on a VISS. Any other good information I should get before driving to see this one?

Our Burb had the Standard OEM splash guards that were installed buy the dealer. I just added to them before towing. Attached generic truck flaps with stainless fasteners. 4" off pavement and 2" beyond the outside of the tire has worked very well, from directly behind the outside of the tire should be hidden.
Picture worth a.......


Inspect the hitch receiver for cracked welds. It was a chronic problem up 'til 09.
It's something you should upgrade with aftermarket class IV or V before towing anyway. Use it as a haggle point.




Don't restrict yourself to just the salesman. It's the Service Dept that can access & print the VISS records.
Talk to a Mgr or Service advisor they will be much more knowledgeable about towing and capability. A road test with someone from Service may also be helpful, I did it often working in serv.

Let me know how you make out or have more ???'s.

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Old 11-23-2013, 12:28 PM   #62
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If I lived in a place that didn't allow pickup trucks, I'd move! There's 2 of them pickups in my driveway now!
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:39 PM   #63
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If I lived in a place that didn't allow pickup trucks, I'd move! There's 2 of them pickups in my driveway now!
Haha, I'm showing this to my wife.

I, honestly, would prefer a 3/4 ton diesel of some sort. Ideally, I should have a separate TV and family mobile. However, I am trying to combine uses to save from buying two vehicles.
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The one at the back is a 3/4 ton Chevy Silverado Duramax diesel Allison transmission crew cab 6' box- plenty of power- good mileage- nice sound system- comfortable seats-
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Example weights from a Yukon

We are successfully towing a 2013 Flying Cloud 25FB with a Yukon. This Yukon is the short wheelbase 2010 model in the "Denali" trim (6.2 liter engine, 6 speed transmission). We have weighed the rig several times as we got it set up.

The Yukon specs are similar to what you saw for the Suburban:
Front Axle: 3500
Rear Axle: 4200
GVWR: 7300

When we got the Yukon we removed the third row seats, which weighed 110 pounds. We then weighed it with a full tank of gas, plus me, my wife, and about 35 pounds of snowshoeing gear, but no camping gear:
Front axle: 3080 (420 pounds of available capacity remaining)
Rear axle: 2880 (1320 pounds)
Yukon Total: 5960 (1340 pounds)

We travel fairly light (no generator, no firewood, not too many "toys"). Our trailer tongue weight has ranged from 900 to 960. The last time we weighed the rig was during a month-long trip. The numbers were as follows, with the weight distribution hooked up and about 10 gallons of gas in the Yukon:
Front Axle: 3240 (310 pounds of available capacity remaining)
Rear Axle: 3720 (480 pounds)
Yukon Total: 6960 (340 pounds)
Trailer Axles: 5640

Compared to the previous numbers, this shows 1000 pounds more weight on the tow vehicle.

So we have a comfortable amount of headroom. We could carry a generator and some firewood, and put a canoe or a pair of bikes on the roof. But if we were to travel with two more adults, we'd probably hit the Yukon GVWR.

By the way, we find the Denali seats pretty comfortable, but the ride is stiffer than we would like (both when towing and when solo). The long wheelbase probably rides better but we went with the short wheelbase because the long version won't fit in our garage.
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Hi, This is my first post, thanks to all you all for lots of informational and entertaining reading, just my 2 cents, don't worry about the home owner association rules. Do what you need to do. Around here if you had a silly rule like that in your neighborhood it would be a lonely neighborhood or you would be surrounded by rule breakers. Maybe you live to close to DC.
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More numbers on the Yukon

I forgot to mention something else important about my Yukon.

My owners manual specifies the max tongue weight as 1100 pounds (when weight distribution is used). The stickers on the factory-provided receiver specifies the max for the receiver as 1000 pounds (also when weight distribution is used).

I believe the owner's manual for 2011 and newer models says 1000 pounds.

So the tongue weight itself can be an issue.
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I currently own an Infiniti QX 56 with a towing capacity of 8,500 lbs. Can any one suggest a TV with more capacity?
Why? With a payload of 1700# you should be able to tow most any Airstream.
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That's more payload than my pickup- 1,550#-
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