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Old 11-21-2013, 05:59 PM   #29
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Yeah, best case scenario is to be able to live with the vehicle for a week. Tow in it, go to the store, strap granny to the back.... But I don't know if that's an option, lol.

I choose suburban for its capability to 1) seat the number of passengers I need and 2) tow the AS I need. I don't know of anything else that seats 8 people that can tow the AS. I vowed never to own a minivan (no offense to those who use them). If I'm missing tow vehicles options please feel free to elaborate.
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That being said I do need to test drive one still.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:11 PM   #31
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Yeah, best case scenario is to be able to live with the vehicle for a week. Tow in it, go to the store, strap granny to the back.... But I don't know if that's an option, lol.

I choose suburban for its capability to 1) seat the number of passengers I need and 2) tow the AS I need. I don't know of anything else that seats 8 people that can tow the AS. I vowed never to own a minivan (no offense to those who use them). If I'm missing tow vehicles options please feel free to elaborate.
The minivan thing can be done, but you have to modify and set it up correctly. More importantly, you really have to want that minivan, because you can get an awful load of grief from some in the RV community.

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Old 11-21-2013, 06:24 PM   #33
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You have to consider what your need is. Your most important factor is payload as it must include the tongue weight too. That is the limiter. Shop around for a vehicle type that meets the payload capacity you need- tongue weight + people and gear and you will have it.

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Old 11-21-2013, 07:43 PM   #34
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Found ours on ebay maybe you'll luck out too....be very careful though. How about this...looks a bit like ours. Bob
Is this yours that you are selling? Or just similar?
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:12 PM   #35
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I mean neither insult nor disrespect to those who have chosen a Suburban as a TV, but I can't for the life of me understand why.

I test drove a Suburban, extensively, and the experience wasn't dissimilar to driving a boat, especially around corners. It was ok in a straight line, but in any kind of manoeuvre where agility and road holding were required the experience was getting very scary, very fast. I would not wish to entrust my family to this vehicle, or this kind of vehicle.

In my opinion, there are other vehicles available that are far more capable, safe and economical than the Suburban. The VW Touareg comes to mind, the Porsche Cheyenne or the new Jeep GC with the diesel engine.

If you do need the load carrying capacity of a larger vehicle, I'd go with a truck or van before choosing the Suburban. I thought it to be the most horrid vehicle I ever had the misfortune to drive.

I'm glad it's only your opinion Andy, and as such cannot be proven one way or the other.

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Old 11-21-2013, 08:17 PM   #36
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We're really just shooting in the dark until the Airstream is known, old, new, light, heavy? An ideal matchup is pretty hard to do. Needed payload is determined by you; we can travel very light, many cannot.

In the meantime I'd look into one of these to see if it meets your family's needs, and when the trailer is picked, it may be time to buy a family car/tow vehicle.

Good tow rating, 3 row seating, two good engine choices, and an 8 speed transmission to keep you in the right power/economy range. Perhaps it's greatest asset is independent suspension front and rear for stability and drivability.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:26 PM   #37
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Is this yours that you are selling? Or just similar?
No...it just happened to be the last one listed when I checked ebay...just a coincidence.
It's an LS model with the standard 6.2 engine and fabric interior.

Don't let the negsayers bother you, go drive one make up your own mind.
Both our 2500 Burbs have been excellent tow vehicles. Comfortable, capable with excellent payload and plenty of room. The LTZ model with active suspension is a very comfortable long haul tower.

Just my opinion and as such can't be proven otherwise.

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Old 11-21-2013, 08:39 PM   #38
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The 1500 Suburban is squishy. The 2500 that I had (2004) had a much firmer suspension - springs, frame, brakes, tires were all heavy duty. The cost of a Suburban 2500 to buy? Not bad. To run as a daily driver - OMDG! It was also too long to fit on any lift in town but the dealer's. Limited where I could buy tires. Since then I have had a 2500 Silverado Diesel quad cab long bed and now a Ford F-150 Ecoboost.

Silverado - DON'T get the quad cab long bed. Go for the six foot bed. The turning radius of mine took four lanes in the opposite direction to do a U-Turn. The mileage wasn't bad for a diesel 15 in town 20 on the road and as always about 11.5 towing. MONSTER torque, and power to spare. I'd pull a 34 classic without a second thought. I resent paying more for diesel than gasoline. It is a less refined fuel and should be less expensive... it WAS until the 90's. Gasser would get even worse mileage.

What I don't like about trucks is you aren't done buying them when you buy them. You ADD running boards, and a tonneau or other bed cover and if you are short, a cargo slide is worth it's weight in gold... and on and on. NEVER buy one without a towing package including the big mirrors... it's just too expensive to do those as add-ons. The 'burb already HAS the bed cover and the running boards, but the after market towing mirrors are about $500 new plus installation. (It's a do it yourself if you're handy and have the time and patience. But do watch out for sharp edges on the inside of the door. They can cut and short your wires if you don't add protection. You also have to add a brake controller to older models... not sure about 2012's and 13's.

As for something with three rows of seats. Is that a real worry? The big pickups ARE six passenger seats - unless you're all 400 lbs. You can easily put the driver and two kids in the front and three adults in the rear. There's plenty of legroom. Throw HUSBAND in the bed if all seven are in the vehicle.

Mini-vans - talk to Andy at Can-Am. Reinforcing hitches is his specialty. They do get better mileage as a daily driver.

BTW on any used Chevy before 2009... the OEM Hitch is CRAP, if it's been used as a tow vehicle before look for a replacement hitch or figure you'll be buying one yourself.

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Old 11-21-2013, 09:09 PM   #39
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I bought a 2005 Ford Excursion Limited with a 6.0 Powerstroke Diesel. It is super clean in great shape, the last year of manufacture. Very beautiful and I hope it last for years. I can easily fit my family of 6 plus dogs and cargo, with a 11,000 lb towing capacity. I would love it if Ford made this truck today.
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I'm glad it's only your opinion Andy, and as such cannot be proven one way or the other.

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Absolutely, and acknowledged as such. My post was not meant to rile any Suburban drivers who no doubt have come to very different conclusions.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:53 PM   #41
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the suburban is indeed top heavy....a big ol boat....likely prone to roll....these are facts not opinion...

However, if your drive is very limited in distance and if you are a cautious person, it can be in this setting a very nice TV and tolerated as a daily....I know folks that LOVE LOVE the big ol suburbans...

the mercedes mentioned or the jeep...they do not have big payload ability...if that is not a hang up, then those are attractive options to consider.

The minivan route in some cases does not have the payload issues - some can really pack on weight...really surprised me...I just did not feel good about pulling my 30' airstream up through the smoky mountains, Appalachia, etc in it...I know folks do it, but I I wanted a more "confident" towing vehicle for such applications...

I would not hate on the mini van folks...if it works for them, then mo' power to them...they are laughing all the way to the bank I suppose
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:54 PM   #42
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For what it's worth, I have the expedition EL. It's a great truck and very comfortable. It is a 2010 and I have 120,000 miles on it of hard farm work. Daily off road fording streams etc. it's only been in for repairs once, for the suspension air compressor at 105,000 miles. My dad drives the Suburban 2500 and has had several problems with it, mostly electrical. Both are good tow vehicles. I will buy another Expedition when the time comes.
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