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Old 11-21-2013, 12:14 PM   #15
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Wow, so much information. I like!

Currently we have a 2 yr old and 4 month old. It is our intention to start airstreaming in a year or two. So teenage years are a ways off. I would certainly, at least have bikes to carry. Kayaks - maybe in the future.

It would be my wife's daily driver, who is stay at home. However, when we drive together it would be the main vehicle. And usually, besides vacations we aren't putting a lot of miles on it. Few trips about 20 miles down the road through the year.

I did not know the 3/4 ton was not being made anymore. That is sad news. I was hoping for a nice 0%. Now I'll have to consider used and just save (not a fan of debt).

A lot of the weight/towing jargon is confusing to me. Where can I go to get detailed definitions of the abbreviations? Also, how would I know how much weight is on the axles - when you say that is the limiting factor?
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:28 PM   #16
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Wow, so much information. I like!

Currently we have a 2 yr old and 4 month old. It is our intention to start airstreaming in a year or two. So teenage years are a ways off. I would certainly, at least have bikes to carry. Kayaks - maybe in the future.

It would be my wife's daily driver, who is stay at home. However, when we drive together it would be the main vehicle. And usually, besides vacations we aren't putting a lot of miles on it. Few trips about 20 miles down the road through the year.

I did not know the 3/4 ton was not being made anymore. That is sad news. I was hoping for a nice 0%. Now I'll have to consider used and just save (not a fan of debt).

A lot of the weight/towing jargon is confusing to me. Where can I go to get detailed definitions of the abbreviations? Also, how would I know how much weight is on the axles - when you say that is the limiting factor?


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Old 11-21-2013, 12:42 PM   #17
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Pharmgeek: I'm curious about the bunkhouse model... Is this a new airstream thing? How many does it sleep? We also have two kids so I'm wondering how this is working out for you? I would prefer a diesel crew cab truck but the wife wants to be able to haul the grandparents if needed. So that's why I need the 3rd row of seats in the suburban.

I'll have to check carmax for used 2500s
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:43 PM   #18
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The weights/ratings are on a sticker, usually on the drivers door jamb or 'B' pillar.

GVWR-gross vehicle weight rating.
GAWR-gross axle weight rating front & rear.


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I have some answers for you regarding the towing with the 3/4 ton. Chevy does no longer offer a 3/4 ton for 2014 and when the redesigned unit comes out next spring they will not offer a 3/4 ton unit. I am a chevy dealer and have done a great deal of study on this issue. If you need to tow a trailer/contents that may approach 10,000 lbs, I would suggest the redesigned 1/2 ton crew cab silverado with the 6.2 V8. It will tow in excess of 11,000 lbs. I will say that our dealership has not sold a 3/4 ton silverado in over ten years and I am sure that this mirrors what is being sold across the country. If they would sell, Chevy would most certainly make them for us dealers. I myself am disappointed in that decision because I would prefer a 3/4 Suburban instead of the crew cab pickup.
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A quick check of carmax revealed one 2500 in FL (I'm in PA). This may be a tough hunt.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:06 PM   #21
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I have some answers for you regarding the towing with the 3/4 ton. Chevy does no longer offer a 3/4 ton for 2014 and when the redesigned unit comes out next spring they will not offer a 3/4 ton unit. I am a chevy dealer and have done a great deal of study on this issue. If you need to tow a trailer/contents that may approach 10,000 lbs, I would suggest the redesigned 1/2 ton crew cab silverado with the 6.2 V8. It will tow in excess of 11,000 lbs. I will say that our dealership has not sold a 3/4 ton silverado in over ten years and I am sure that this mirrors what is being sold across the country. If they would sell, Chevy would most certainly make them for us dealers. I myself am disappointed in that decision because I would prefer a 3/4 Suburban instead of the crew cab pickup.

Unfortunately, the Silverado chassis doesn't fit in most conventional residential garages. The Suburban does/did.

I question GM's decision.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:34 PM   #22
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if carmax has one that has what you want and suits your needs...then you simply pay the tranfer fee....usually 500 max I think 750...worth it I suppose IF you are quite certain that is what you want/need.

the bunkhouse layout (you can see all layouts of current models on the site, I think even old ones as well):
Airstream, Inc :: Flying Cloud 30 w/Bunk

front queen bed sleeps 2 (obviously), dinette can become a "bed" and sleep a couple kids, the lounge sofa is about 6.5 feet long, I am age 30 and could sleep on it ok, teens and kids definately, the dinette I would think only 1 adult, the full size bed in the rear (the bunkhouse) can sleep two adults, upper bunk, one child...I tried upper bunk as well, im 6 feet, it is just doable..I could sleep there if I needed to...

If you need to have a 3rd row...then we can forget about pickup trucks...unless we can strap grandma in her rocker in the back....but how can she fit back there with kayaks??

Having said that then your choices are now limited to the SUV's.....so tahoe, suburban, nissan armada, that nissan NV van thingie (actually really cool interior options), chevy vans, ford ecoline vans....the vans offer a few 3/4 ton options as well as 1 ton options....im not sure if tahoe makes a 3/4 ton model?

question for others on this forum regarding his situation...can he like rent or lease something to use and evaluate (both in his subjective feelings in tow, and objectively on cat scales with usual gear) - and decide if a particular 1/2 ton SUV will work? I have no idea...
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Why an SUV at all?

I don't want to open up a can of worms, but.....

Why bother with a suburban? There are forum users who tow with vans & mini-vans and report excellent experience...and then as a daily driver they are MUCH better than a suburban. Consider the purchase price as well - loaded suburban at about $55k (Cdn) and a mini-van at about $35k (Cdn).

We have 5 children and tow a 1993 30' Excella with a 2010 Honda Odyssey. We've been about 15000 miles so far, including a cross-continent trip last year that took us through the Rockies twice. Certainly it's slow up-hill and then again on the down-hill, but we're on vacation and have the time!
Coupled with a Hensely hitch the towing experience is phenomenal - no sway at all. You might want to consider it!

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A quick check of carmax revealed one 2500 in FL (I'm in PA). This may be a tough hunt.

Found ours on ebay maybe you'll luck out too....be very careful though.

How about this...looks a bit like ours.


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The weights/ratings are on a sticker, usually on the drivers door jamb or 'B' pillar.

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As others have said a highly touchy subject!

For my part, I suppose I adhere to the bigger is better philosophy!

Over the last three tow vehicles we have owned, I went up in size / wheelbase / tow rating each time we changed vehicles and have never regretted it.

I just find the towing experience so much more relaxed and enjoyable and for me that is what it is all about.

I have no argument with those opting for smaller tow vehicles from the standpoint of economics, or use as a daily driver, or whatever other logic they apply, and I will obviously admit that our 3/4 ton diesel is not as easy to park as our 1979 Mini - or my motorcycle - but we do use it as a daily driver and have no real problem with it at all!

I would certainly buy it again!

Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice!

One thing I would not do thought would be to use a tow vehicle that is not factory-rated for the load that I plan to haul - even though I understand that others do this and it apparently works for them.

On principle I like to have a good margin between what I tow vs. what my tow vehicle is rated to tow. It just gives me peace of mind even if it might cost me a bit more on both first cost and running cost.

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:35 PM   #28
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I mean neither insult nor disrespect to those who have chosen a Suburban as a TV, but I can't for the life of me understand why.

I test drove a Suburban, extensively, and the experience wasn't dissimilar to driving a boat, especially around corners. It was ok in a straight line, but in any kind of manoeuvre where agility and road holding were required the experience was getting very scary, very fast. I would not wish to entrust my family to this vehicle, or this kind of vehicle.

In my opinion, there are other vehicles available that are far more capable, safe and economical than the Suburban. The VW Touareg comes to mind, the Porsche Cheyenne or the new Jeep GC with the diesel engine.

If you do need the load carrying capacity of a larger vehicle, I'd go with a truck or van before choosing the Suburban. I thought it to be the most horrid vehicle I ever had the misfortune to drive.
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