Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-23-2011, 03:21 PM   #29
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g View Post
Do you know anyone with a half ton (any brand) who would hook up your trailer and run to the scales? Although it wouldn't be exact, you could emulate your running loads and get a pretty close idea of RGAW and GCW. All the half tons are within a few hundred pounds of each other..
If you can do this, take the time to ensure proper tongue weight and WD setup. Might help answer a lot of your questions. Maybe your dealer has a half ton demo???
i had all the contents from my old trailer in a storage unit. since i personally packed and unpacked the unit i can reasonably estimate the contents weight to be between 1,000 and 1,500 pounds. i'll be taking some things out before i leave miami. there are still some items that will be given away or tossed.
__________________

__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 03:28 PM   #30
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,402
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum View Post
Because he asked for help building his 2012 Ford 150 and only a very few answered the question. No one has called him nuts or dangerous yet even through he has pointed out he is within specs, but the thread is still young.

doug k
Yes, but before any truck can be spec'ed, a qualified truck guy MUST know how it is to be used, including loads and trailering data.

THEN and ONLY THEN can you properly spec a truck. From what I know so far....I can't begin to spec a half ton from available options because I don't have DATA to know if to start from a half ton perspective or a 3/4 ton perspective. Opinions are just that, and everyone has one. I believe in specific and accurate data and the specs to support the data.
__________________

__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 03:32 PM   #31
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,402
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by richinny View Post
i had all the contents from my old trailer in a storage unit. since i personally packed and unpacked the unit i can reasonably estimate the contents weight to be between 1,000 and 1,500 pounds. i'll be taking some things out before i leave miami. there are still some items that will be given away or tossed.
Maybe I missed something???? you're now trailerless and the contents, new trailer and perspective new truck are in different places in the country?
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 03:41 PM   #32
4 Rivet Member
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Missouri Valley , Iowa
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 338
Rich,
FWIW my '10 F 150 truck w/ full 36 gal gas tank, 2 bicycles, quite a few tools, Weber Q small grill, etc. and me weighed 6,960#. Truck & trailer mentioned in previous post, was right at 16,000#.
Dan
__________________
Farmer Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 03:54 PM   #33
Rivet Master
 
vswingfield's Avatar
 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock , Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,773
Images: 32
Well, a Ύ ton would still be my first pick, and I have the lightest 34 ever built. Be that as it may, the thing that got me curious is:
Quote:
Originally Posted by richinny View Post
California emissions pkg. (NY registration)
Why? Seems like they are an entire continent apart. Has NY suddenly joined CA?
__________________
Vaughan
vswingfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 03:58 PM   #34
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,402
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield View Post
Well, a Ύ ton would still be my first pick, and I have the lightest 34 ever built. Be that as it may, the thing that got me curious is:

Why? Seems like they are an entire continent apart. Has NY suddenly joined CA?
Several NE states have emissions requirements different than Federal just like CA. Some of those states just adopted the CA standards and some have what is usually known as Northeast Emissions.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 04:02 PM   #35
Rivet Master
 
vswingfield's Avatar
 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock , Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,773
Images: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g View Post
Several NE states have emissions requirements different than Federal just like CA. Some of those states just adopted the CA standards and some have what is usually known as Northeast Emissions.
Thanks, I wondered if that was the case.

Hasn't spread to the Mid-South yet, but I haven't been new TV shopping either.
__________________
Vaughan
vswingfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 04:29 PM   #36
CLOUDSPLITTER "Tahawas"
 
ROBERT CROSS's Avatar

 
2003 25' Classic
Zanadude Nebula , WNY
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 11,153
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by richinny View Post
thanks for all the replies. here is some more info.

the 34 is 8000 dry with a tongue weight of 800. it has dual air conditioners and i think that lightens the tongue weight a bit. this combination is already longer than my garage and will sometimes be used around town. the short bed will fill my needs and i want the 4 doors. i've had a dakota pickup with a 6-1/2 ft bed for 20 years and it suits me fine. the shorter bed will keep me from doing things i really should not be doing. i just wish it was lower.

the current f-150 is more truck than the earlier years with more power, braking, size and payload. i believe i'm within towing ratings of gcwr 17,100, max trailer weight of 11,200 lbs. and max payload of 1900 lbs.

Model: 2011 - 34' CLASSIC LIMITED TRAVEL TRAILER

CHASSIS
11,500# GVWR • 11,400# Axle System • 7858# UBW • 3642# NCC • Aluminum Wheels • 15" Radial Black Wall Tires, LRD • 12" Electric Drum Brakes w/ Nev-R-Adjust Brakes & Nev-R-Lube Hubs • Electric Hitch Jack • Manual Stabilizer Jack w/Pads • Aluminum Step w/Extension • Stainless Steel A-Frame Protectors • Spare Tire & Bracket.

.... experience tells me that the 800lb tongue weight is way under what it will be ready to tow. You'll notice above there is no mention of TW in the specs.
AS lists the TW for the 31 at 805lbs, full LPG w/o options water and equipment.
Our 25 Classic was listed as 750lbs and was well over 1125 with full LPG, FW, clothes and stuff for two adults, un-hitched, weighed with a Sherline scale.
(Note.... good towing info on their website.)

I think the TW will be over 1000lbs. At least 875-900 with WD adjusted.

Soundz like your mind is made up so please keep everyone posted.

Bob
__________________
PFC.....

“After all these years the reason I continue to love Thanksgiving.....I still sit at the kids table.”
RLC

Sandra wanted to go to Cleveland on vacation,
but I’m the Husband, so we went to Cleveland.
RLC
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 04:54 PM   #37
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g View Post
Maybe I missed something???? you're now trailerless and the contents, new trailer and perspective new truck are in different places in the country?
sorry for the confusion. i had a '94 34' and now have a 2011. the contents were in storage during the transition. the trailer is in miami and the truck is still in the planning stages.
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 04:59 PM   #38
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,402
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by richinny

sorry for the confusion. i had a '94 34' and now have a 2011. the contents were in storage during the transition. the trailer is in miami and the truck is still in the planning stages.
Boy, I'd sure like to see you load up the new AS and borrow a truck to take to to the scales. Then talk about your new truck.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 05:03 PM   #39
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS View Post
Model: 2011 - 34' CLASSIC LIMITED TRAVEL TRAILER

CHASSIS
11,500# GVWR • 11,400# Axle System • 7858# UBW • 3642# NCC • Aluminum Wheels • 15" Radial Black Wall Tires, LRD • 12" Electric Drum Brakes w/ Nev-R-Adjust Brakes & Nev-R-Lube Hubs • Electric Hitch Jack • Manual Stabilizer Jack w/Pads • Aluminum Step w/Extension • Stainless Steel A-Frame Protectors • Spare Tire & Bracket.

.... experience tells me that the 800lb tongue weight is way under what it will be ready to tow. You'll notice above there is no mention of TW in the specs.
AS lists the TW for the 31 at 805lbs, full LPG w/o options water and equipment.
Our 25 Classic was listed as 750lbs and was well over 1125 with full LPG, FW, clothes and stuff for two adults, un-hitched, weighed with a Sherline scale.
(Note.... good towing info on their website.)

I think the TW will be over 1000lbs. At least 875-900 with WD adjusted.

Soundz like your mind is made up so please keep everyone posted.

Bob
bob, if my mind was made up i wouldn't have bothered to post.

i'll drag out the bathroom scale tomorrow unless Northern Tools has a scale. i was "told" by the dealer that the tongue weights are 'actuals' done by the factory now. the scale will tell.

if i can borrow a truck i'll run it up to the scales. i know my 94 dakota would be slightly overloaded :P
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 05:05 PM   #40
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
over the next few days i'll see if i can get a weight from a similar vehicle. there aren't many 2012's on the lots yet.
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 06:04 PM   #41
4 Rivet Member
 
2007 27' Classic FB
Ridgefield , Washington
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 362
Images: 8
I just can't imagine towing my 27 Classic with anything less than the F250. Especially when I am up in the mountains and on curvy roads. Just sayin. Absolutely get the tailgate step. It is worth every cent. Not sure what kind of brakes are on your classic but mine has hydraulics and Ford says not to use their brake controller with the hydraulics. Cheers.
__________________
John & Lisa
Woosch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2011, 06:47 PM   #42
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar

 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,402
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woosch
I just can't imagine towing my 27 Classic with anything less than the F250. Especially when I am up in the mountains and on curvy roads. Just sayin. Absolutely get the tailgate step. It is worth every cent. Not sure what kind of brakes are on your classic but mine has hydraulics and Ford says not to use their brake controller with the hydraulics. Cheers.
I think that was true for the Fords the first year they had ITBC but not for the last couple of years.
__________________

__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
f-150


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BASH III July 4- 8 2012 Frank's Trailer Works Other Rallies & Events 432 12-05-2013 05:51 PM
2012 Airstreams BrandonJenna Buyer Guidelines 210 05-11-2013 09:22 AM
NorCal Rally, Jackson Rancheria, October 12-14, 2012 Coastalview Forum Rallies & Meet Ups 607 11-01-2012 09:11 AM
Centramatics for 2012 Flying Cloud 25FB wlanford Wheels, Hubs & Bearings 14 08-25-2011 10:06 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.