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Old 06-20-2015, 01:33 PM   #15
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I have a '14 Ram 2500 4x4 w/ Cummins and tow a '15 Classic. No issues with my controller. Something is amiss in your truck. There is a thread on this from someone else who had a similar issue -- sorry I don't remember the resolution.
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Old 06-21-2015, 12:12 PM   #16
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I am having trouble with my factory Integrated Brake Controller on my 2015 RAM 1500. The truck is new, less than two months, and today was the first time using it with a trailer. I went to go pick up my 2016 25FC and after all the check outs etc. it was time to test out the new hitch and adjust the brake controller to the new AS (as a reference I am an experienced tower and have been pulling AS for 20 years).

We used the standard method of initial dial in of the brake controller: drive approx. 20mph, let off the gas, apply manual gain to lock up trailer tires, then back off gain, repeat till the skidding stops. The problem of not enough trailer brake is even with a gain setting maxed at 10, it barely slows the rig and I mean barely. The issue is bad enough it is not safe to tow. The AS brakes are ‘definitely engaging’ but about as much braking as if any other controller was operating and you had the gain set at 2.

To test and make sure it was not the new AS brakes, we hooked another new 25 AS to my RAM and the same issue existed with an identical AS. We took my AS and hooked it up to another pickup and we could easily lockup the trailer tires. So, we have proven, with out any doubt, it is my new truck integrated brake controller, not the AS.

Here is the RAM brake controller settings I used:

- with gain set at max 10 the issue persisted no matter if the trailer brake controller was set at ‘light electric’ or ‘heavy electric’. Light is for up to 8,000lbs, heavy for over 8,000lbs. There was very little discernable difference felt between the two settings, even at 10 gain.
- I am definitely on 'electric' and not on 'electric over hydraulic' on the settings.

Has anyone experienced or heard of this issue with the RAM integrated brake controller? This is my first RAM truck so am I missing something? Unfortunately, tomorrow is Saturday and no dealerships open. Bummer!!!
Take your truck back to the dealer and have them trouble shoot you truck using star case s1508000014 It will guide them through what to check.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:56 AM   #17
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Thanks for the good info. I have gone from calling dealer this weekend, and their estimate to checking it out in about a week (that prompted me to call the head sales guy cell phone Sat. night) and when checking in 7:30am Mon. at dealer all of a sudden they were waiting for me, with a loaner, and taking it straight to the bay to trouble shoot. You can see who has the weight at a dealership😀

I'll keep you posted, I certainly hope they find something obvious.
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:18 AM   #18
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Problem should be solved !!!! The dealer who rushed my RAM in and 3 hours after I dropped it off their diagnosis detected faulty brake controller. Great news! Bad news it would take 3 days to get a new replacement. Good news is they scavenged a controller off a new truck on the lot, wow. Then they hooked my truck up to their trailer and tested it out, super wow. It now works. So, in 3 hours the dealer has solved my problem. My hat is off for them.

And thanks to everyone on this thread helping me out.
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Old 06-22-2015, 04:58 PM   #20
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I should have not spoken so fast!!!

I don't know what super light and not loaded trailer they used to test the new controller but there is no change between the new one and old one on my AS. It's not going to stop. They have opened a priority ticket with RAM. I talked to the technician and he said they did get the same error on both controllers indicating there was a short but they discounted since it seemed to work with them on their utility trailer with the new controller.

I just had to bite my tung.

The Saga continues.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:14 AM   #21
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Again, the same with my RAM 1500. According to the technicians at the RAM dealer there was nothing wrong with the truck and the same was confirmed by the folks at Camping World. But when I went to pick up my AS and plugged it into my RAM, I got the "No trailer connected" message and thus no brakes.

I have an appointment for service on 6/30 at Camping World and they will have the AS and the Ram and hopefully they can find out what is wrong!

Patiently waiting!
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"It's Alive" or put in another way, I can now stop my Airstream. The new RAM truck integrated brake controller is NOW 100% FUNCTIONAL!!!!!! The solution did not come from RAM dealership or the priority ticket with RAM technical support services. It came from my Airstream Dealership who told me to bring it to them and they would figure it out. Well, they plugged their home made electronic gizmos in the 7 plug receptacle and very rapidly isolated a voltage drop along the path from the controller to the 7 PIN. They fixed something very easy, tested the current again to the brakes, voltage jumped from about 7.5 volts to 11 volts and now those disk magnets just hum away. It is interesting probably a quarter million dollar diagnostic tool at the dealership couldn't figure this out but some 5 bucks in electronic parts taped together with someone with a brain who thinks critically, well you get my point. Good news, hitching up next week and WY and ID here I come!!!!
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Plan-B, Great to hear that the issue has been resolved!

Happy trails!
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You should ask exactly what they fixed easily so if it comes back, and they often do, you will be able to repair it yourself no matter where you are.

Connections with resistance (allowing some current flow but with a voltage drop) can be the trickiest to find. Low voltage 12 volt circuits are most vulnerable, and can produce heat were you don't want it.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:25 AM   #26
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Oh BoldAdventure, you know better this discussion must happen over a camp fire with a beer, or too!

But, In my life time I have lost count of how many Ford pickups I have owned, this is my first venture straying away from the holly grail. So far I am really pleased. Yes, I have sinned:-)

But if you had my last two diesels, which lived most of their lives back home at the dealership, I think they were home sick for mommy:-)

My 6.0 I lost a controller on a trip and on the 6.7 I had lost two on trips. Very inconvenient but not the end of the world. Damn, I loved that 6.7 but it was broken more than not and the last three years, not exaggerating , minimum $10k year on maintenance. Many of the the same issues were happening every year and every year newer and bigger ones lingering . Loved her and hated her.

Thanks again everyone and yes I need to ask specifically what was done so if there is a repeat.

PS: the only perfect, and I mean perfect, thing on wheels I have ever owned I sold last month. And that was my 1997 21' Excella Classic. Other than brakes, packing bearings, and tires there were zero defects or issues. It was perfect. I hope my 2016 26FC can live up to her reputation, even just a bit.
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Plan-B,

Please, please, please!!! Find out what the fault was with your truck!!!

This is not just your truck. There are a number of us that have the same problem with our travel trailers but we can't get help from Ram!!! The dealerships have no idea how to test it other than run the scan tool.

My ram has 7.4v on heavy electric and 8.3v on light electric. At least half a dozen 2015 HD Ram owners with the same issues and similar voltages.

Even if you don't know, a phone number or link to the dealership that did your diagnostics and fixed your problem.

We believe this issue might affect all 2015 Ram with the ITBM. A few have filed complaints with the NHTSA.

Thank you for any help!
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"It's Alive" or put in another way, I can now stop my Airstream. The new RAM truck integrated brake controller is NOW 100% FUNCTIONAL!!!!!! The solution did not come from RAM dealership or the priority ticket with RAM technical support services. It came from my Airstream Dealership who told me to bring it to them and they would figure it out. Well, they plugged their home made electronic gizmos in the 7 plug receptacle and very rapidly isolated a voltage drop along the path from the controller to the 7 PIN. They fixed something very easy, tested the current again to the brakes, voltage jumped from about 7.5 volts to 11 volts and now those disk magnets just hum away. It is interesting probably a quarter million dollar diagnostic tool at the dealership couldn't figure this out but some 5 bucks in electronic parts taped together with someone with a brain who thinks critically, well you get my point. Good news, hitching up next week and WY and ID here I come!!!!
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