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Climber · 07-13-2015, 08:26 PM

Hi Bob, we used Shell Premium for the first time this weekend and averaged 13.5 mpg over a couple 100 miles

Conditions were Central Oregon, relatively flat ~ 3500 elevation, 2014 F-150 EB w/ Max tow, ~ 7,000 lbs TV weight pulling our 27'FC lightly loaded at 5,900 lbs.

Wind was light and 90 degrees off the left. (ok, port)

I'd be interested to see what you find if you go for the "good stuff"

Cheers,

Climber

ps ave speed 55-60

kootenayken · 07-13-2015, 08:46 PM

Just finished our third road trip with our F150, 3.5 ecoboost and ended up at Glazier National Park. Up hills and down, I couldn't tell we had a trailer on the back. Great truck, mpg not what they said we should expect but about 13 on the last trip. All in all very happy with this rig.

rodsterinfl · 07-16-2015, 07:23 PM

Hey Mr. Bob, guess what I took delivery of today? Yep, a 2015 Ecobeast!

tjdonahoe · 07-16-2015, 08:11 PM

All this about fords , my close friend had 2 6l litre diesels, ford couldn't fix them so they fixed him up with a V-10 , at 138000 underpowered miles there is a noise in the valve train ford says this is normal, so he trades for a new 6 litre gas, 3000 miles later Wow! This is under powered and the exhaust is oily, I told him my dodge 6.7 diesel has 92000 miles and no problems with lots of power.

ROBERTSUNRUS · 07-16-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rodsterinfl

Hey Mr. Bob, guess what I took delivery of today? Yep, a 2015 Ecobeast!

Hi, rodsterinfl; Love to hear all about your new truck.

ROBERTSUNRUS · 07-16-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tjdonahoe

All this about fords

, my close friend had 2 6l litre diesels, ford couldn't fix them so they fixed him up with a V-10 , at 138000 underpowered miles there is a noise in the valve train ford says this is normal, so he trades for a new 6 litre gas, 3000 miles later Wow! This is under powered and the exhaust is oily, I told him my dodge 6.7 diesel has 92000 miles and no problems with lots of power.

Hi, tjdonahoe; I started this FORD thread to let people know about my experience with my new F-150 Ecoboost and to share with those who have the same or similar vehicles. I have heard all of the bad stories from all of the auto makers including Dodge. My friend has a 6.7 L Dodge and it's a real nice truck, but one day we were traveling together and my 5.4 L Lincoln left him in the dust going up mountain passes in California. [We had the same trailers] My Lincoln is now retired from towing duty with 125,000 miles on it. Thus my thread reporting on how my new F-150 Ecoboost does as a tow vehicle.

Hogfan · 07-16-2015, 09:40 PM

rodsterinfl, would love to hear about your experiences and see photos of your new beast! Congrats, they are beautiful- we have our eye on one now so love to hear experiences from others.

rodsterinfl · 07-16-2015, 09:48 PM

I will post some info to add to Rob's F150 thread for sure to add to "the report". They are at least starting to discount the trucks.

ROBERTSUNRUS · 07-16-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rodsterinfl

I will post some info to add to Rob's F150 thread for sure to add to "the report". They are at least starting to discount them.

Hi, great; I have seen quite a few 2015's haven't heard anything about them yet. Maybe you can start with which model, size, and options/equipment your new truck has.

kscherzi · 07-16-2015, 10:13 PM

Hi Bob. Thanks for keeping us appraised of your transition. I currently have a 2003 Ford Expedition which is the poor cousin of your Navigator. Same engine (except 2 valve not 3). Hauling a 27FB which is real similar to your trailer. Other than wishing for better gas mileage I've been pretty happy. Right now I'm hoping to last until the F150 is released with the 10 speed transmission. I'd like more low speed get up and go. The current 4 speed needs upgrading.

Kurt

ROBERTSUNRUS · 07-16-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kscherzi

Hi Bob. Thanks for keeping us appraised of your transition. I currently have a 2003 Ford Expedition which is the poor cousin of your Navigator. Same engine (except 2 valve not 3). Hauling a 27FB which is real similar to your trailer. Other than wishing for better gas mileage I've been pretty happy. Right now I'm hoping to last until the F150 is released with the 10 speed transmission. I'd like more low speed get up and go. The current 4 speed needs upgrading.

Kurt

Hi, Kurt; My Lincoln has the 4 valve engine and 4 speed trans. As for power, The Ecoboost has plenty. I actually burned rubber while pulling onto a main street and this was with the trailer attached. I have the 3:73 gears and people have said they have plenty of power while towing bigger trailers than mine with 3:55's and 3:31's. A ten speed would be even better.

Arcticfox · 07-16-2015, 10:48 PM

Hi Bob:

Good to hear your on the road and making headway as they say. We have been running a 2014 F150 Eco with Max tow package since last fall and like it a lot. I have not kept really good records of gas mileage but I think we would be in that 11 MPG range pulling our 28' FC. It sounds like your in that range also. It would be interesting to know if running with #1 gas would help this and if it does, will the cost difference actually allow it to make sense?

If you get into central Canada, give us a yell as we have lots of room for courtesy parking if your looking to hang your hat for a few days. We are heading out ourselves in mid Sept for about 6-weeks. Heading west to do the west coast HWY down to the Redwoods. With luck the tourists will have gone home and the weather will be good...... Mind you I hear it is really dry in the MW this year, so I wonder how that will effect things?

Anyway have a good trip and stay safe

Cheers

Doug

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graysailor · 07-17-2015, 07:06 AM

Currently running a 2015 F150 Platinum pulling a 30' Cloud. Most intelligent and comfortable vehicle I have ever owned. Getting 11-12mpg when towing. This truck is lacking in payload capacity and feel like I am getting pushed around just a little bit. I have ordered a Classic which will be 1000lbs heavier then my Cloud so have decided to stop fooling around and go with 2016 F250 diesel. This will almost double my payload and up the towing to 14,000lbs. Won't be quite as sophisticated as the F150 but still a nice truck that should more then do the job. While at the International Rally I noticed that just about all who had 27' trailers and above had the F250 Lariat with a diesel. None had any complaints.

KJRitchie · 07-17-2015, 07:42 AM

Verify the payload sticker on the Lariat before purchase. I've seen payload stickers on heavily optioned F250 diesels under 2000lbs because of the heavy engine.

Kelvin

KJRitchie · 07-17-2015, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rodsterinfl

Hey Mr. Bob, guess what I took delivery of today? Yep, a 2015 Ecobeast!

What is the payload sticker on the door show for your 2015?

Kelvin

Arcticfox · 07-17-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KJRitchie

Verify the payload sticker on the Lariat before purchase. I've seen payload stickers on heavily optioned F250 diesels under 2000lbs because of the heavy engine.

Kelvin

Good point Kelvin - Many times people (including the dealer) don't have any idea how options like trim packages and motors effect the actual load capacity.

graysailor · 07-17-2015, 01:42 PM

Ford advertises 3100lbs payload for the F250 Lariat. The diesel runs about 5-600lbs heavier then the gas version. So I think worse case payload would be around 24-2600lbs which would double my present payload. F350 would ad another 500lbs of capacity but probably a rougher ride and perhaps overkill.

RonH · 07-17-2015, 02:18 PM

Have had my F-150 for a year now. It has HD trailer and payload package, Ecoboost, 3.73 rear end. I towed a 34ft AS for about half of the 12K miles so far. I had 1998 E-350 with V10, 4.10 rear end that I towed the same trailer with since it was new. A lot of WOW!! has happened in the intervening years. The F150 is superior in every way to the old E-350. The only problem(?) I encountered was getting used to the more sensitive steering. The F-150 has met or surpassed my every expectation.

From monitoring various comment sources I have concluded that the people who have the most problems with F-150 are those who don't have one

rodsterinfl · 07-17-2015, 02:53 PM

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What is the payload sticker on the door show for your 2015?

Kelvin
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@ Arcticfox, yes good point. I basically was educating the dealer because they thought that only towing capacity had to be considered- nothing else.

I also learned quite a bit, at least about current order information and options on Ford 150s. Not all options are available on all trim levels. For example, there is no checkbox for just Max Payload on a Lariat trim line. We went through the order information before we found the "odd truck" in dealer inventory, listed as a Platinum on the dealer's system but was in fact the Lariat that I purchased. What was interesting is how they cluster certain options into packages and if you want (627) HD payload alone it just says late availability with no order selection box. That said, the HD payload is matched with the FX off road package but what is odd is that those skid plates and other items add weight as well.

In shopping 2015 models I found an XLT at the dealer with a 2300 lb payload on the door panel. It was equipped like my '09 truck- essentials but nothing fancy, white with black cloth.

My truck is a Lariat that is essentially loaded- 502A, platinum white, 20" wheel/tires, Tech pkg, 3.5 eco option, 2X moonroof, tailgate step. It is easier to describe what is not on the truck from the everthing list- no off-road skids, no 4x4, no extending fold out box or larger fuel tank, no tow mirrors, park assist or adaptive cruise control, two-tone paint, sport pkg or wheel well liners or inflatable rear seatbelts. Every other feature I have- The 502A pkg has a long list. Frankly all features would be nice but my salesman said that he has never seen one totally with every feature on the list. The cruise and parking are cool but not for $3500, at least to me. I regret only tow mirrors but that would most likely require ordering a truck. Ordering them afterwards is cost prohibitive as my model uses power folding, sensing 360 camera mirrors and they are quite a bit of money to add the tow version of that to the truck so I will still be using my Aero mirrors when towing. A few months ago I looked at a similarly equipped '14 as this one. The payload was 1100 something- too low for me.

BTW, to answer your question on payload, my door sticker says 1720 lbs having the 3.5L Eco, 3.55 electronic and 20" wheels. The max tow has the 3.55 rear. The 1720, is great for me; however, it is true that the more features on the truck, the less the payload. We walked all over the lot of 133 F150s to look at payload stickers. Most of the Platinums, King Ranches and Lariats were around 1200-1500 lbs on their lot, many had the 36 gallon fuel tank and the off road skid plate option AND 4x4. Those all reduced the payload. The ones with the higher payloads were the XLT models- nearly all above 2000. You can tell quite a bit by just walking around and noticing how tall the truck is. The lower sitting trucks had low payload figures- higher ones had more. There were two we found that sat really low. The stickers said 6200lb GVWR package. It is all about which engine, axle/final drive, wheels/tires primarily. Basically I walked away with nearly $7 or 8K off sticker depending on how the trade was considered- either giving me top dollar or a thousand less than top.

KJRitchie · 07-17-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by graysailor

Ford advertises 3100lbs payload for the F250 Lariat. The diesel runs about 5-600lbs heavier then the gas version. So I think worse case payload would be around 24-2600lbs which would double my present payload. F350 would ad another 500lbs of capacity but probably a rougher ride and perhaps overkill.

Just double check the payload sticker on the door before signing the paperwork. Ford's documentation is best case. Gas F250s will have higher payload than diesel.

Kelvin