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Old 12-29-2014, 09:58 PM   #15
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Good, thorough review/report-
What do the rear fender liners do? I had never heard of them till just now.
Please give another review/report on the Retrax bed cover once you get it installed. I want a bed cover, and I like the looks of tonneau covers, but I think a shell (although I think they are ugly) would be more practical.
Hi, In the old days all fenders were lined with plastic liners; Now Ford has decided that rear fender liners are optional so they don't come with the vehicle. This cost me about $120.00 and about an hour to install them. Early in January I have an appointment for my Line-X spray-in bed liner. Soon after that I will install my Reatrax Pro bed cover.


(1.) Without fender liner.

(2.) With fender liner.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:10 PM   #16
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15.5 mpg. I guess that is combined city/highway calculated by hand. The onboard computer did a good job estimating, 15.9

I guess one of the reasons you have to pay higher fuel prices is to pay for the labor to fill your tanks.

Oregon state government doesn't think their citizens can pump gas safely? **

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Hi, unless I did it wrong, I came out with 16.65 MPG actual by dividing the total miles of 554.4 by the fuel taken of 33.282 gallons. Then again, In Oregon they stop the pump when it clicks off. I usually top off my tanks.

I'm not sure of the labor to pump gas, but it does give some people a job with pay, so I'm OK with that. And it's cheaper than what we paid when I lived in California.

** While at a gas pump in Northern California, the guy in front of me pulled the nozzle out of his filler tube with the gas shooting out of the nozzle like a water hose. I have never in my life seen this before. Then I noticed the Oregon plates on his vehicle and determined that this person possibly never pumped his own gas before.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:15 PM   #17
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Make sure you have relay switches and fuses for towing in your vehicle. They go in slots #9 and #21. I have a 2013 F150 with the towing package and just assumed they were installed. 6 months later I realized they weren't. Your tow lights will work without them but the AS batter will not charge while being towed without them. Not sure why Ford does not install them automatically but many dealers install them. The fuse and relay switch will be in your glove compartment.

Anyone know why Ford doesn't install them at the factory?
Hi, I found the fuse and relay in my glove box and found where they go. Leaving them in the glove box, they could get lost or tossed. I think Ford learned this trick from General Motors. I read many complaints about this especially from those with GM tow vehicles who install disc brakes on their trailers.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:19 PM   #18
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How does one get individual wheel weights? I've asked a number of folks in the Houston area and all I get is blank stares...
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Hi, the only ones that I have ever seen [portable scales] were at road side checks by the Highway Patrol looking for overloaded commercial vehicles. [ticket time]
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:21 PM   #19
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New Jersey is a full service state by law and gas is less expensive in New Jersey than neighboring self service New York.
Hi, same here; Oregon gas is cheaper than California.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:18 PM   #20
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I love mine. Got similar, but it's my daily driver, so I did a few things differently. I got the FX package, 3.55 and mine's silver. Matches my trailer Line-x'd the bed immediately.

I bought it in October and have 10K on it already...I know, I know... I hope to ease up on the mileage a bit, but that's my life right now. I towed my 26' 62 Overlander over 500 miles in pretty adverse conditions - high crosswind, snow, slush (North on 1-25 through Wyoming, if you know that road) both pickup (and trailer - pretty proud of that) were awesome - no anti-sway, just the original a-frame hitch/new coupler. The trailer is gutted but my whole shop and old skins plus new aluminum sheets plus..plus...plus.... was in there, so there was some weight, how much exactly I don't know. Plus the pickup bed was packed full. Plus me and my dogs... the back seats flip up and down very handily, making a really nice cargo area (came with the rubber floor liner) for them without trashing the seats.

Trailer spec'd at 3750 originally. Got 'about' 13mpg with that load (towing at altitude over 5,000).

Since then...many miles, unladen and laden. And some days at -20 F. Currently residing at 6700 elevation and going in and out of 4x4 every day. Really happy with this pickup. Had a 7.3 diesel before, so the towing difference is obviously noticeable, but not out of line with my expectations.
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Hey Bob if you think that new Ford will make it up here to God's country, I can weigh whatever you want and it won't cost you a dime.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:16 AM   #22
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Hey Bob if you think that new Ford will make it up here to God's country, I can weigh whatever you want and it won't cost you a dime.
Hi, Thank You Dan, I just might do that. My Lincoln has another towing job; My trailer is leaking so it will be towed to George Sutton RV for repairs in a few days. Lee doesn't want me on top of the trailer, I can't fix leaks while it's raining, it's not going to stop raining, it's cold enough for snow, but we probably won't get any. And right now a trip to Vinnie's is too far away. We had a really strong rain storm while in California and another strong one in Arizona and everything was fine. After we got home, my trailer decided to start leaking even though the rain here is light compared to California/Arizona rain.

Anyway, when I get caught up on everything and enough miles on my F-150, we shall be back on the road again.


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Bob's 2014 F-150 report.

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Hi, I consider the shipping weight, or actual weight of this truck to be GVWR = 7650 minus the payload = 1745 to be 5,905 lbs.

I don't load my tow vehicle to the max and I don't load my trailer to the max either. I adjust my spring bars by wheel well height. My set-up has never seen a scale. And I'm OK with that.

Real numbers make a report that can be used for comparisons. Rather the point of the thing for other owners of the same truck or trailer or both. How the hitch is set is not the point though you could make it such. Same for tire pressure on the truck as a percentage of load.

The "I think this or that" has a focus when discussions can point to a concrete example. As a service to others. Too many posts on this brand of truck where a reader can instead be pointed to one thread for the real thing.

I have meant my suggestions for your thread to be only that.

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Hi, In the old days all fenders were lined with plastic liners; Now Ford has decided that rear fender liners are optional so they don't come with the vehicle. This cost me about $120.00 and about an hour to install them. Early in January I have an appointment for my Line-X spray-in bed liner. Soon after that I will install my Reatrax Pro bed cover.


(1.) Without fender liner.

(2.) With fender liner.
I still don't get it. I've had trucks without them and it never occurred to me to install them. I have sprayed the inner fenders with that black bumpy stuff out of an aerosol can- I can't think of the name of that stuff- is it "undercoating"?
Seems like it would keep it looking cleaner under there. I have had several white work vans and I struggled to keep the area inside the wheel wells clean/white. I figured if it came white I wanted it to stay white.
My truck has them. I thought it was a brand thing. I thought some trucks just had them and others did not.
I guess I learn something new every day.
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I've installed them on the last two trucks. Much easier to keep the rest of the underside clean for inspections. As trucks sit high it also cleans up the appearance.


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I bet fender liners cut down on noise drumming up into the cab. Have to check into them for my 06 Dodge. Thanks for the info. Really interesting thread. Peace, jim
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Hi, unlike cars and vans, the inside of the fenders on a pick-up bed [without liners] are open all the way from the front to the tail lights in back. With the fender liners it will keep the dirt, rocks, water, snow, and mud out of there. And the flinging rocks will only hit the plastic fender liner instead of bouncing off of the sheet metal.

In the old days at the dealership, we used to spray black undercoating on cars and trucks to help prevent rust, which wasn't a problem in California, and to cut down on noise. Newer cars have massive exhaust systems, heat shields, mid-ship plastic gas tanks, and plastic shields leaving virtually nothing left for spraying so we stopped undercoating new cars.
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Congratulations Bob. Nice truck. Enjoy it! Do you know where your trailer is leaking?
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