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Old 06-11-2008, 04:14 PM   #15
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I tow with a 1998 Navigator. It is a little challenged for power. However if you use the Hensley Arrow hitch you won't care about the wheel base of the SUV. This hitch ends all sway. The new Sequoia wood be my choice for a towing SUV. A great design with 9,100 tow rating an 380 HP and 400 lb/ft of torque. Made in Texas. Check out the Hensley.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:29 PM   #16
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How 'bout a Sprinter window van. eBay Motors: Dodge : Sprinter (item 150254686395 end time Jun-09-08 20:18:51 PDT)&
A bit smaller than the IH.

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A Sprinter is a wonderful tow vehicle. I've got a 2500 that I used to tow my 61 Ambassador home from Cape Cod. Once the trailer is restored, the Sprinter will be my primary tow vehicle.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:55 PM   #17
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:34 PM   #18
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"They're dinosaurs. Put a fork in them,"

This headline was on Fox News

High Gas Prices Driving Midsize SUVs to Extinction
People are starting to abandon them because of high gasoline prices.
It's one of the last places to back away from the class of SUVs, which includes the once-popular Ford Explorer and Chevrolet TrailBlazer. Some industry analysts are already declaring the midsize SUV extinct.
"They're dinosaurs. Put a fork in them," Erich Merkle, vice president of auto industry forecasting for the consulting company IRN Inc.

The big SUV's are next.


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Old 06-12-2008, 08:21 PM   #19
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High Gas Prices Driving Midsize SUVs to Extinction
People are starting to abandon them because of high gasoline prices.
It's one of the last places to back away from the class of SUVs, which includes the once-popular Ford Explorer and Chevrolet TrailBlazer. Some industry analysts are already declaring the midsize SUV extinct.
"They're dinosaurs. Put a fork in them," Erich Merkle, vice president of auto industry forecasting for the consulting company IRN Inc.

The big SUV's are next.
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Another reason to buy a Sprinter. I get 26mpg empty and 17 towing. Plus it seats 10. Of course diesel is over $5.00 a gallon...
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:00 PM   #20
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The people who didn't need an SUV are finally wising up. Those with families, or work needs, still find them useful, as with trucks. Buying a used one is the best value, something that has four or more years projected use in it. By then we ought to see some nice, high mpg diesels in this sort or size of vehicle.

I wouldn't buy new.
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:12 AM   #21
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I'm looking now for a Ford Excursion, V10 and tow package...there are all kinds of 'deals' on this type of tow vehicle...Most of us are going to get 9-12 MPG out of our TV's, so why not travel in style! As long as you don't have to use it for your daily driver, it's a great tow vehicle, IMHO.

Ford quit making the Excursion's in 2005, and most of them you find were loaded up with all the goodies. They are built on the 3/4 ton truck chassis, so will handle most any AS you can throw at it.

You can find the Excursions with Diesel's, but I think the V10 gas engine is a better choice...lighter in weight, lower in purchase price, and less expensive to maintain...and fuel costs probably comparable, allowing that diesel fuel is higher than gas.
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:59 AM   #22
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We just made our first trip with our new TV, the new Sequoia, and it was very impressive. Towing our loaded 23' International with A/C on we got 12.5 mpg at 60-65 mph. This trip included 2 mountain passes over 7000' each way, in addition to the final 70 miles of the trip at about 6000'. Our A/S isn't huge, but plenty big enough for me, and it never felt like it was "driving" the Sequoia.
Although I was concerned about the independent rear suspension, we got the load leveling airbags option which seemed to stiffen up the rear plenty. I will say that I was dissappointed with the stock rims/tires. I'm not a fan of the 20 inch 'bling' rims, and the tires (4-ply) were only rated at 2403 lbs, but that was what we got with all the other options we actually wanted. I was able to upgrade to Nitto Terragrapplers (6-ply), which have a 2756 lb load rating and tread that is actually made for dirt and snow, which is good as the last 15 miles of our trip were dirt roads. Had a great time, lots of wildflowers and saw deer, elk, and antelope.
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:24 AM   #23
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...The towing capacity listed for the Sequoia is 9,500 lbs compared to around 7,500 lbs for the Suburban and Expedition.
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Actually, IIRC, my wife's '07 Expedition with towing package and 5.4L has a towing capacity of either 9,100 LBS or 9,400 LBS. I confuse the two between the Expedition and the F-150.

If I could find a good pair of towing mirrors or extenders I would get a brake controller and use if for short trips and trips where there would be no hills to deal with.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:48 PM   #24
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There's the Armada, based on the Nissan Titan platform, and Toyota has the Sequoia, based on the Tundra platform. Dodge's SUV offering, the Durango, is based on the Dakota mid-sized truck, so is not a full-size machine.
actually, the durango underwent a re-design in 2004, and is closer to a full-sized suv. still, probably not big enough for a 31' trailer. the second generation durango is much more capable than the "dakota based" model, however.

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Old 06-13-2008, 06:41 PM   #25
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When I did my pre-purchase research on the A/S-tow vehicle combination, I think the stock 3/4 ton Suburban/Yukon had a max capacity of about 9,800 lbs? And, I believe that none of the current Ford SUV products comes close ot that. The 31' A/S Classic comes in at about 10,000 lbs. A problem?

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Old 06-16-2008, 02:10 PM   #26
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Per the Ford Expedition web site:
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Class-leading 9,200-pound trailer towing capacity
(9,000 lbs. for Expedition EL)
This is with the towing package, 3.31 rear end and 5.4L rear end.

10,000 is too much for a vehicle with 9,800 LBS capacity. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:44 PM   #27
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i tow my trailer with a 2005 diesel excursion.this has been the best suv for camping with my wife and two teenage kids.i remember one trip a couple summers ago when my son was asleep from our house near phila pa to bar harbor maine.both of my kids always comment about the comfort of this vehicle for traveling.the other nice feature is the 44 gallon fuel tank,which depending on how easy you are on the peddal averages towing mpg between 11.5 to 13 .also with the towing package this truck came with a class 5 hitch? towing capacity of the truck is 11000 lbs,although the hitch is rated for12500??gcwr on this model is 20000 .unlike my previous tow vehicles which were also suv, s this truck feels alot more stable even though most camping trips i am probably pulling a 9000 lb trailer.previous tow vehicles were an expedition and a k5 blazer.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:01 PM   #28
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I tow with a new Sequoia, and love it.... No probs with our 28' Ambassador... The only thing I would wish toyota had done was put in a bigger gas tank, it's only 23 gallons... can only go 275 miles or a little more on a tank...
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