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Old 09-12-2011, 06:52 PM   #71
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Are you REALLY serious????? This isn't even on the docket for resolution till after World Peace is achieved, and yes, after H*** freezes over.
Gee, I thought that Hell, MI froze over every winter.

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Old 09-13-2011, 07:50 PM   #72
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Most things we carry in our truck bed are things you wouldn't want in the cab with you if you had a choice -- generators, jerry cans of gas and diesel fuel, ladder, dog crate, gas grill, cooler with ice -- all with leaves, sand and debris liberally applied. Also, Suburbans and Excursions give up so much towing capacity that you would always be concerned about being over your safe towing weight. Only if I traveled with more than four people and a dog would I consider an SUV over a 3/4-ton truck, gas or diesel. But for four people and a dog, or less, why give up the towing power? Luxury in a truck can equal anything the SUVs offer, as well.
I'm not going to get into a gearhead p**** contest, but I started with a 2500 Suburban and switched to a 2500 Diesel Silverado long bed quad cab.

If I had my life to live over.... I sometimes wish I'd stuck with the Suburban. That is probably dictated by two facts:
  • Truck bed height - I'm vertically challenged and getting up into the bed of my truck is a PAIN - I carry a ladder to get up and down.
  • Storage inside. Sorry I disagree about everything except gas & propane storage. Truck bed covers are easy to break into. A Suburban with an alarm system - a little tougher. I fulltime and now carry a Honda 3000 Handi. I just get sick thinking about getting that or my tools getting stolen... not a trivial amount.
The diesel truck does get MUCH better mileage than the older Suburbans though, and the six speed tranny is VERY smooth.

Now my name is Paula FORD, and I still like chevy's better... however I LOVE the tow mirrors on the Dodges, and I LOVE the integrated ladder on the Fords.

It really irks me how much after purchase dollars you have to throw into a pickup - bed liner or coating, truck topper or boxes of some kind, ladder to get up into a big ass 2500 or 3500, running boards for the same purpose, even electric tow mirrors were an extra for mine. The Burb I had basically had all that stuff on it... Oh yeah, but the OEM Hitch.

There isn't a perfect world, get something used but halfway decent and go camping!

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Old 09-13-2011, 08:53 PM   #73
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I remember this discussion on Ford, Chevrolet and Mopar from the sixth grade in 1954. Thought we settled it back then!

Back then I would have been a Studabaker fan, no doubt.

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Old 09-23-2011, 09:43 AM   #74
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anyone using a 2011 Tundra 4X4...thinking of buying one and would appreciate your thoughts
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:05 PM   #75
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:47 AM   #76
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Guys you all need to relax. All trucks/suburbans can get you from point A to point B.

But, IMO the best way to get there is a 2011 superduty.

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Old 09-25-2011, 06:55 PM   #77
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And the fastest way to get there is with a Duramax!
Glad I don't drive one then,,..Whew!...The Journey is just as important as the destintion to me.

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Old 09-25-2011, 11:07 PM   #78
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I'll keep my 2011 6.7 oil burner & new tranny designed & now built by the blue oval guys over that Isuzu Duramax...

Btw - just poking the tiger in the cage - my father is on his second Allison/Duramax Chevy and was over at the house giving me a hard time today over my Ford...
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Old 10-06-2011, 12:37 AM   #79
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I have been towing my 34 ft Airstream, first with 1995 F-350 crew cab dually, with 7.3 diesel, then with 2006 F-250 Super Duty FX4 with 6.0 diesel. I will pick up, from dealer, a new 2011 F-250 crew cab Lariat FX4 with Ford built 6.7 diesel with 400 horsepower tomorrow. It ought to snatch that 34 footer on down the road.
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I would have prefered a pickup over my V10 Excursion but real pickups don't exist here unless you special order them. By real I mean an 8ft bed. I would want a Crew Cab Long bed and they are rare as hens teeth around here because most folks drive them for the redneck factor here in Alabama. I paid $7000 for my Excursion and a truck of similar quality would have been two or three times that. Many of the trucks around here are short bed crew cab and they are used like cars. It was not worth $40k to get exactly what I want and since I don't have $40k it is a moot point. If you can't pay cash you don't really need it. I will have my house paid off in a few years and I need that more than a new truck.

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I'll keep my 2011 6.7 oil burner & new tranny designed & now built by the blue oval guys over that Isuzu Duramax...

Btw - just poking the tiger in the cage - my father is on his second Allison/Duramax Chevy and was over at the house giving me a hard time today over my Ford...
Since we're poking tigers......your Dad's a BRILLIANT man! What happened to you?
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The Navistar 6.0 and 6.4 are the fords to stay away from. The 99-03 with the 7.3 is the way to go if strapped for cash. The 11-12 with the corporate 6.7 and new 6 speed can't be beat.
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The Navistar 6.0 and 6.4 are the fords to stay away from. The 99-03 with the 7.3 is the way to go if strapped for cash. The 11-12 with the corporate 6.7 and new 6 speed can't be beat.
So why does fords new superman engine only have a 60k mi warranty and the Chevrolet has a 100k mi warranty?
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We have pulled Lucy over 80,000 miles with our 3/4 Quadrasteer Suburbans. The 6.0 liter gas engines were quite adequate for the job, and the interior storage space was hard to beat.

Lucy's new tow vehicle is a 2011 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 Duramax/Allison. His name is Fred, and he is a single rear wheel crew cab long bed. Fred's eight foot bed is sporting and Outfitter pop-up truck camper who we call Ethel. Ethel tips the scales at a little over 2,000 pounds.

Fred can handle this plus tow Lucy without breaking a sweat.

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