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09-09-2012, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,453
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2005 19-foot Bambi
2008 Toyota Tundra CrewMax, 5.7L, 2WD, with tow package
15-16.5 mpg - Rocky Mountains and back highways (typical speeds 45-55 mph)
13-15 mpg - Highway cruising, non-Interstate (typical speeds 55-60 mph)
13.5 mpg - Interstate cruising average on relatively flat ground (typical speeds 60-65 mph)
12.0 mpg - Interstate cruising (typical speeds 70-75 mph; we don't do this anymore)
10-12 mpg - Long upgrades in Rocky Mountains (typical speeds 55-60 mph)
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09-09-2012, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
Fountain Inn
, South Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 714
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10.5
10.5 mpg average for the last year. We have a 2002 25' Safari at 6300# gross weight. TV is a Chevy 2500, 6.0 gas engine, 3.73 differential, 4X4, 6 speed transmission. 9000 miles of towing in the past year. One trip from Tennessee to Yellowstone and back (considerable amount of head and side wind on this trip). Several trips to Florida and one to Ohio. I typically tow at 62 mph and never exceed 65 mph.
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09-09-2012, 03:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrUKToad
Towing a 2011 28' International with our 3.5 litre V6 Toyota Sienna, we averaged over the 2012 camping season 12.8mpg (US). Most terrain was pretty flat and we tend to do around 60-65mph. Our best ever was 14.9 on flat terrain with no headwind doing around 50mph. Our worst was 10.1 on a wet and windy day on our way back from the Finger Lakes in NY.
Our real advantage is the average 28.4mpg when not towing :~)
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That is quite good UKT. We too have a 3.5V6 in the G35 and have averaged 13.5 to 14MPG/US towing the lighter 23'. Did you make the climb to Watkins Glen State park? That was a 1st gear climb for us.
PS, non towing "bonus" mileage is 25MPG/US which is 90% of the time.
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09-09-2012, 05:15 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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We had a 6,000 mile road trip this summer which took us from Phoenix to the East coast and back. We did mountains and plains, back roads (mostly) and Interstates with speeds mostly in the mid 60s, but hit 70 a few times to keep up with the flow. 2007 Tundra towing a 75 Trade Wind.
Average for the trip was 11.0 MPG. We travel with a pair of bikes on the roof of the truck cap which I estimate costs me a little in the MPG numbers.
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09-09-2012, 06:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 268
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Ok this is only partly related so please don't flame it, on 12000 miles this past spring with 28' Keystone toy hauler averaged 11.2 from Fairbanks, down to CA coast, across to southern CO, east to MI, them back to to Fairbanks. Keystone was at just about 8500 lbs. Set the cruise on 60 most of the time. We will be leaving in a month to pick up our 25' Eddie Bauer and will report on the mileage with that when we get back. See sig. for tow vehicle.
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"When you find yourself in a hole - quit digging!"
2012 1/2 Eddie Bauer, 2016 Ram Laramie 3500 SWB 4x4 6.7L Cummins 68RFE
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09-09-2012, 06:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,708
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Towing a 2012 28' Intl CCD with a 2012 Infinity QX56 (400 HP, 440 lbs of torque)....up through the Smokies today = 11.5 MPG.. This is 475 miles from central NC to Frankfort, KY. While much of the speed limit is at 70 MPH....and I am towing with a PP 3P, I still hold it at between 60-62 MPH.
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09-09-2012, 06:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 28' International
Chatham
, Ontario
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Ruler
That is quite good UKT. We too have a 3.5V6 in the G35 and have averaged 13.5 to 14MPG/US towing the lighter 23'. Did you make the climb to Watkins Glen State park? That was a 1st gear climb for us.
PS, non towing "bonus" mileage is 25MPG/US which is 90% of the time.
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I'm a very conservative driver, slow to speed up and gentle in the slowing down, so that may be some of it. We did go up to the Watkins Glen campground but without the trailer, we just went to have a look around - that is a STEEP hill! We stayed at Taughannock Falls, Ithaca. There's a story about hill climbs at Taughannock but I'll save that for another day :~)
Bonus mileage is the key, eh?
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09-09-2012, 07:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
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In our June/July 4,200 mile tour we netted just under 14 mpg. MS to WY, flat lands to mountians
2006 dodge diesel, 34' Airstream towing 65-70 on the interstate, with the flow on 2 lane roads.
Of course the on board computer showed MUCH higher
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09-09-2012, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,406
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I've been pretty careful too, watching the instant mileage thing and trying to up the average by feathering the pedal, optimizing whatever momentum I can. It was great on the freeway (55-60, 55 is the limit in CA for towing a trailer), less on the twisty and hilly two lane highway nearer home and when I dragged the trailer over Centennial drive behind UC Berkeley, the mpg plummeted.
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09-09-2012, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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I drove from Fort Myers to St. Augustine and back and also from Tampa as longer trips so far with just a few months under my belt. The best I have gotten based on fill-ups and calculation (not onboard computer) was 14 mpg at 60 mph and no wind to speak of. The worst I have gotten is 8.9 mpg with a powerful head wind from Tropical Storm Debbie coming home from St Aug. I have noted that it seems to be 12-14 mpg on the computer unless there is wind and it drops to about 11 mpg. I have a 2009 F-150 4dr 4.6L 3V with the 6 speed transmission.
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09-09-2012, 08:13 PM
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Old School Young Gun
Currently Looking...
Olney
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 384
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This is all very surprising info! Its lookin like the diesels are gettin similar to the gassers which kinda makes me not wanna get a diesel anymore lol. Especially for the price of diesel compared to gas...
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09-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2011 20' Flying Cloud
Beaumont
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 79
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20' FC and 2003 Dodge diesel, manual trans. The TV has 260000 mi.
From Texas to Glacier Nat Park and on the way back, we are averaging for the total miles 17.7 mi/gal (this is very accurate number). We drove 5600 mi so far and 20 % of it is without trailer. Good numbers for us, we are spending just a little more money for diesel compared to staying home.
On the other hand I agree I could get this with some other vehicle so next buy of TV will be a tough choice. I like the 600 ftlb torque on the stick shift.
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09-09-2012, 08:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
2005 25' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
1998 19' "B" Van Airstream 190
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 176
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We took a trip last fall from North Georgia to Bangor, Maine and back, on the whole trip we averaged 11.8 MPG. Our camper is a 2005 25' Safari pulled with a 2010 GMC 2500, big V-8 , I thought that's not so bad because around here working I only get about 13-14 MPG with out a trailer. I am glad I didn't get the diesel since it was about ten grand more at the time and diesel fuel was on the rise
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09-09-2012, 08:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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TV: 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, 5.7 hemi V8, 5200#
Trailer: 1974 Argosy 20' Total weight 4200 #
I tow a lot, keep full records. 13.5 mpg towing, mountain west, high altitudes, lots of long passes. Normal speed limits of 60, rarely over 70 other than on limited interstate towing.
Recent 850 mile trip, all interstates, 70 mph all the time, 22' Argosy, empty of belongings so probably 4000#: Exactly 13 mpg.
Solo: (not driven that way much, but return trip from Wyoming: 21 mpg
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09-09-2012, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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13.8 indicated / 14.2 actual: on diesel holding 55-62 mph.
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09-09-2012, 09:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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TV: 2008 Tundra, 2wd, 5.7L, 4.3 rear end, 6 speed, Leer Cap
Trailer: 1966 Tradewind 24 ft, under 5,000 lbs loaded.
Towing mileage over the last 2 years has been 13.5 mpg. I drive gently and usually only about 60 mph, but sometimes 65 mph on interstates. On one trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway (and back) I got 14 mpg! Go figure. Guess it was the 45 mph speed limit.
Tundra mileage solo is 14 mpg in town and 18-19 mpg on the road. Very nice and comfortable tow vehicle but it is HUGE. SR5 model is very well equipped and only cost 25k out the door in 2008 (5k rebate helped).
I used to tow my 1984 Excella 31 ft with a 93 5.7L Chev Van (very underpowered and underbraked) and I got 10 mpg driving gently (and scared).
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09-09-2012, 09:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' Classic
Hinckley
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 907
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TV: 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Larado, V6,
Trailer: 2011 Safari Flying Cloud 20' 5000#
14.7 high
14.3 low
All interstate at 65-70 mph. I havn't done any hills yet and this combo could be a dog on a long climb.
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09-09-2012, 09:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1995 34' Excella
Corinth
, Mississippi
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 304
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The best that I ever got for a full tank of fuel was 14.7 however I average about 13 overall pulling a 34'ft weighing 10300 pounds loaded. My truck weighs 8240 pounds so i count myself blessed indeed to average 13 mpg overall while pulling at 65-70 mph and weighing well over 18,000 pounds.
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09-10-2012, 04:45 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2010 28' International
Richmond Hill
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAB
Towing a 2012 28' Intl CCD with a 2012 Infinity QX56 (400 HP, 440 lbs of torque)....up through the Smokies today = 11.5 MPG.. This is 475 miles from central NC to Frankfort, KY. While much of the speed limit is at 70 MPH....and I am towing with a PP 3P, I still hold it at between 60-62 MPH.
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Wow, identical mileage with our 2012 QX pulling a 2010 28' International and keeping same speeds. Solo it's getting ~19. Would rather pull with the Dodge 5.9 Cummings (15mpg at same speeds) but the QX is so much more comfortable running around in at the destinations. Premium fuel prices almost as bad as diesel
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09-10-2012, 05:22 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Brian, that's interesting because it supports the idea that weight has little to do with effort needed to pull the trailer, is mostly about wind resistance (except during hill climbing). Of course those who have done bicycling are aware of that.
Similarly when we went up 1300# from a 20' Airstream to a 25' the difference was hardly noticeable in driving or fuel usage.
doug k
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Indeed, which explains why I get better mileage with my 28' Safari than my previous ultra light 18' . Recent trip to Tetons from Michigan average 12 in my 2011 Silverado 5.3 , 3.42, 6 speed trans, 1/2 ton. Worst was coming home (downhill) with 25mph headwinds. Wind is the biggest factor overall IMHO.
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