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[27fb2freedom]

Just curious do you want to post up the gvwr and other #s from door pillar sticker? I was always worried about toyota because of their smallish payload (really most 1/2tons). Althogh rated at 8-10k towing most are more limited by payload than Tow rating. I.e only can tow 10k with exactly 10%hitch weight and empty truck...

Or do what most people do and not worry about it. I have a 3/4 ton and after all essentials, trailer hitched, and people/gas etc i only have 1000lbs left for whatever else i might bring and that is starting with a 2800lb payload capacity.

Starting with ~1500lbs put 700lbs hitch wieght, generator, truck topper, some supplies it will eat it up very fast!

[Gene]

Our 2007 Tundra tows our 25' without a problem and could easily do the same with a 27' or 28'. The drivetrain is very good. Payload is like other 1/2 ton truck and can be managed if you are careful.

Unfortunately there are problems—paint scratches very easily, plastic parts on the front deteriorate quickly and other fit and finish problems. This is unlike any other Toyota we have had. They used to be invincible. But the engine is massive, fast and strong.

Gene

[27fb2freedom]

Yes i dont think any recent 1/2 ton class truck/suv is short on power to tow a 7500lb trailer (with the largest available motor). But the payload is a different issue and imho more important than 0-60 times

[BeBop]

Ford F-250 7.3L Turbo Diesel pre 2003. Any year, with less 100k miles or less. They are pretty much bullet proof.

[27fb2freedom]

But he mentions not using the vehicle as a daily driver. Even the 7.3 and especially any newer diesels are not the best for sitting around the driveway

[Gene]

Originally Posted by 27fb2freedom

Yes i dont think any recent 1/2 ton class truck/suv is short on power to tow a 7500lb trailer (with the largest available motor). But the payload is a different issue and imho more important than 0-60 times

Everybody has different payload needs and should buy according to all the possible issues one has. We bought the Tundra because of Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability and have been disappointed but the drivetrain is great for towing and that has been fine for reliability. Zero to 60 is something between 6 and 7 seconds and with a turbo option has been reported to be around 4.5. That is unreal. Not as fast with a trailer, of course, but tremendous mid range acceleration for getting onto interstates or passing a slow truck or RV—a good safety factor.

I am waiting for the kid who wants to drag from a stop light, but it never seems to happen.

Gene

[pappy19]

I have had quite a few diesels mostly Fords but one Chevy, and I would not own another diesel, period. Almost any gas rig, especially a 3/4 ton or 1 ton will pack any AS made. A lot of 1/2 tons properly equiped will also. The Ford 1/2 ton F-150 is the most popular vehicle in the USA and there is a reason for that. The F-150 is used in more business and construction firms than any other vehicle, because it is a tuff and reliable rig. I personally think that the F-250 with a gas engine is one of the most reliable tow rigs you could buy, be it the old 5.4 V-8, the 6.8 V-10(what I have), or the new 6.2 V-8 with almost 400 hp. The F-150 EcoBoost is almost unbeatable for towing, mileage and reliability. You can lease a new one for less money per month than buying a used one. Done this many times.

Pap