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Old 12-17-2011, 02:20 PM   #29
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I bought my pickup second hand. The first owner had it set up for a truck camper. With the overhang of the camper ( like the tailgate down) they planned to tow a trailer, probably a boat. In addition to the factory Dodge hitch they had a Super Hitch rig installed. It's an additonal reciver hitch that piggy backs on the factory one for added strength. It looks like an over / under arrangement and allows the Super Hitch receiver to handle the added length of an extension. They are available as a bolt on to the factory hitch or a stand alone installation. I use it to tow with a regular insert. I don't need the extension but that's how it was designed to handle the long inserts. As to the stability issues, I have no idea, but this a hitch designed for that use.
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:20 AM   #30
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It sounds like the Gents at Sky River are advising the Torklift extension is capable of holding up the Airstream weight (that may be true but I wonder if the factory Ford receiver can).

The issue with the heavy Airstream is sway control or stability. Sideways movement transferred to the truck will be greatly amplified by extending the pivot point farther BEHIND the truck. For example, this would be exactly opposite the effects of the exceptionally stable Hensley/ProPride hitch.

It is amazing what contraptions RV dealers will send customers out the door with in order to make a sale.

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I am going to continue the research and thanks to all for the feedback, I will need to change out the hitch to a Torklift that is specific to the Super Truss Extension,may add sway control and weight distribution we will see. I spoke with another "hitch expert" who has used this product and told me that it will do the job. I will keep all advised and pull the Airstream both ways, with and without the extension and advise results, stay tuned.

Thank You all, really appreciate all the advise,so helpful as I am a novice in all this.

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Old 12-19-2011, 02:25 AM   #31
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"may add sway control and weight distribution we will see."

Are you considering towing a 30ft Airstream trailer without weight distribution bars?
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:00 PM   #32
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And without sway control?

I think you need to do a lot more research and talk to some other hitch experts who are not trying to sell you something.

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Old 12-19-2011, 07:45 PM   #33
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And without sway control?

I think you need to do a lot more research and talk to some other hitch experts who are not trying to sell you something.

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Hensley sway control hitch is what I am looking at based on advise from another forum member. In speaking with the sales rep from Hensley and tow expert they confirmed that this would be a good direction and due to the design with the extension piece I would be able to travel with tailgate down, have sway control and use existing hitch that is standard on the F250.

By using the Hensley I would not need the Super Truss from Torklift. If you can look At the Hensley web site you will see the system I am referencing.

Thank you for your advise.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:00 PM   #34
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"may add sway control and weight distribution we will see."

Are you considering towing a 30ft Airstream trailer without weight distribution bars?
Thanks, Derek
I am still getting all the info to make sure we get the right set up, we are planning on weight distribution, just not sure of the mechanics and best method.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:23 PM   #35
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bde, check out the ProPride. It seems to be an advance on the Hensley and cost less. How it works for your particular set up is beyond me, however.

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Old 12-20-2011, 02:07 PM   #36
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If you are buying a new F-250 for a tow vehicle it has an electronic anti sway built into the vehicle. I don't know how sensitive it is because I did not have problem with sway before nor after buying the new 2011 F-250. It might make a high priced hitch unnecessary. It would be worth a try before spending a lot of extra money on an unnecessary item. I know you will enjoy the truck.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:39 PM   #37
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I am looking into the pro pride, learned that it was designed by the founder of Hensley after he left Hensley in 2007, thanks for the suggestion.

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:48 PM   #38
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You ought to call Sean Woodruff, the owner of Propride. Just go to Propride website for his number. If busy leave a message and he will call you back.

He is extremely helpful and knowledgeable about his product and what it can do for you. Tell him what you want to do and you won't be guessing any more. If it will work, he will tell you.

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If you are buying a new F-250 for a tow vehicle it has an electronic anti sway built into the vehicle. I don't know how sensitive it is because I did not have problem with sway before nor after buying the new 2011 F-250. It might make a high priced hitch unnecessary. It would be worth a try before spending a lot of extra money on an unnecessary item. I know you will enjoy the truck.
How will anti-sway for the tow vehicle affect the trailer? The truck may not sway, and that may help, but it seems to me the trailer can still sway because it is separate from the tow vehicle except for the hitch.

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How will anti-sway for the tow vehicle affect the trailer? The truck may not sway, and that may help, but it seems to me the trailer can still sway because it is separate from the tow vehicle except for the hitch.

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Truck sway control will HELP correct trailer sway. The truck system is reactive --it controls sway AFTER it occurs. A good hitch setup is proactive and helps prevent and (arguably) some brands and styles will help correct sway.
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Here is a brief, very basic explanation out of an owner manual. Note that the brake apply happens with each wheel independently, as required, at a very fast rate of speed.

"Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
Non-hybrid vehicles with StabiliTrak have a Trailer Sway Control (TSC) feature. If the vehicle is towing a trailer and the system detects that the trailer is swaying, the vehicle brakes are applied without the driver pressing the brake pedal. If the vehicle is equipped with the Integrated Trailer Brake Control (ITBC) system, StabiliTrak may also apply the trailer brakes. The TCS/StabiliTrak warning light will flash on the instrument panel cluster to notify the driver to reduce speed. If the trailer continues to sway, StabiliTrak will reduce engine torque to help slow the vehicle. See StabiliTrak® System for more information."
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dzn', sounds like anti-skid control. Thanks for the explanation. If this is the same as anti-skid control, that has been available for quite a few years by another name.

The difference may be that the Ford system will slow down the tow vehicle if the driver does not slow down, but that is opposite recommendations what to do if there is a serious sway problem. We have been told to speed up while applying the trailer brakes manually to straighten a swaying trailer.

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