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08-08-2012, 09:09 AM
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New Member
2009 16' International
Carpinteria
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Bambi tow options - Ridgeline vs. Avalanche
Hi!
My wife and I are brand new to your world - - after years of fantasizing, we pulled the trigger and just bought (but have yet to pick up) a 2009 16' International Bambi. Now we need to buy something to yank it around with. We've gotten a ton of advice (most of it conflicting), and I was amused to see an earlier post on this site indicating the easiest way to start World War III is to ask what T.V. makes the most sense for a Bambi.
At this point we have two options - a Honda Ridgeline (5000# towing capacity), and a Chevy Avalanche with considerably more capacity.
I realize the obvious things in this choice, such as more power for hills with the AV, and greater fuel efficiency with the Ridgeline. My real questions are two: (1) everything else being equal, is it just a fact that the smaller Honda will get "beat up" faster and require significantly more repair and maintenance than the Avalanche, and (2) our being "newbies" at trailering, does the greater weight of the Avalanche significantly increase the overall safety factor?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
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08-08-2012, 09:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
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Get you a Toyota Tundra or F150. From a reliability standpoint I would go with the Honda although I don't consider the Ridgeline a real truck you don't need a real truck to pull what you have. I would go Japanese or Ford. So if you only have two choices, go with the Honda. It really depends on what you are going to do with it. If you are just going to make short weekend trips you could pull it with a minivan. If you are going to be gone for weeks at a time and cover lots of miliage I would at least go with a 1/2 ton truck. My choices would be an F150 or Toyota Tundra.
Perry
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08-08-2012, 09:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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"We've gotten a ton of advice (most of it conflicting),"
and that will continue here.☺
I am currently a 2012 F150 Ecoboost SuperCrewCab fan. Very happy with mine in pretty much all respects.
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08-08-2012, 10:12 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
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"We've gotten a ton of advice (most of it conflicting),"
and that will continue here.☺
Isn't that the truth....LOL
The Ridge will give you more power/towing capacity then you will ever need.
It will use less fuel and have a more comfortable ride than any 1/2 ton.
With the IRS it will probably handle the trailer better and be more stable than any 1/2 ton.
Reliabilty???... no contest again. Not much of a debate here. Should be a quiet topic.... :7)
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08-08-2012, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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The Ridgeline is a better fit to the 16' Airstream, and more stable with or without the trailer attached as 'Ruler pointed out above. I don't see any safety benefit with greater weight. More mass to stop and maneuver when you have to do so quickly would not be useful.
Choice of tow vehicles should include how you would use it when not towing. Some need a truck for heavier hauling and some would do fine with the Ridgeline.
doug k
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08-08-2012, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
GLENDALE
, AZ
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If your tow vehicle will also double as a daily driver, the Honda will probably work fine. No experience with the Avalanche.
You might also take a look at the Toyota Tacoma, which is similar in size, or perhaps slightly larger (it has grown to be about the size of the older Tundra). A friend tows a Casita with a Ridgeline and is very satisfied with the setup.
Having owned both a Chevy crew cab and the newer Toyota Tundra CrewMax pickups, I'd go with either the Honda or Toyota trucks; because they seem to be a little more refined (car-like ride for in town and highway cruising) and for better reliability.
As part of your research, don't forget to check the Consumer Reports reliability ratings for all potential selections.
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08-08-2012, 12:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' Classic
Hinckley
, Ohio
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Have you given any though to a Jeep Grand Cherokee? They are rated for 5000 with the 6 up to 7500 with the 8. I was looking at the same options. Then walked into the Jeep show room and purchased the Grand Cherokee Larado.
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08-08-2012, 01:01 PM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim from SB
Hi!
At this point we have two options - a Honda Ridgeline (5000# towing capacity), and a Chevy Avalanche with considerably more capacity.
I realize the obvious things in this choice, such as more power for hills with the AV, greater weight of the Avalanche= significant increase in overall safety factor
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Seems you have answered your own questions...
Last year for the AV...better move quick!
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08-08-2012, 01:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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"greater weight of the Avalanche=significant increase in overall safety factor"
I learn something new here every day.
doug k
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08-08-2012, 01:27 PM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,620
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The tow vehicle should always outweigh the trailer
Wally Byam
C 1958
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08-08-2012, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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That's cute, Bill. But this is 2012.
doug k
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08-08-2012, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master
2023 16' Basecamp
Currently Looking...
Chgo. N.W. Burb's
, Illinois
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Have towed our 20 ft. 2007 Safari with a 2007 Avalanche for 5 years. NO problems. Prev. had a 2002 Avalanche NO Problems.(over 100K) I think 2012 is the LAST Avalanche being Made. Will miss the 8/4 motor,Mid Gate Wall and 3 panels over truck bed.
I don't think you would go wrong on Honda ,get the bed panel covers.Roof Racks if avail. Have driven the Honda (not Towing) and it was beautiful.It should do a good job.
If the Av ever gives up i'll get a Ford.
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08-08-2012, 02:36 PM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
That's cute, Bill. But this is 2012.
doug k
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Yes...I suppose the laws of physics have been revised lately...
My bad.
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08-08-2012, 02:53 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillTex
Yes...I suppose the laws of physics have been revised lately...My bad.
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Nope the laws of physics haven't changed but the technology of the TV's have. Now where is that link I had of the new Malibu VS the 59 chevy in a crash test??
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08-08-2012, 03:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 19' International CCD
Leesburg
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2012
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Tow vehicles
I tow my 2006 19' Bambi with a 2012 Tacoma V6 Double Cab. I like the manuverability of the slightly smaller truck, and frankly the Toyota's and Honda's are just a higher quality vehicle in my humble opinion. In your case, I would go with the Honda. Again, just my opinion.
-Smitty
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08-08-2012, 03:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 19' International CCD
The Woodlands
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 45
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I've towed my 19' International Bambi for over 15K miles with my 2007 Honda Ridgeline. It tows great and is very comfortable. I've been in moutainous areas and very hot areas and so far have not had any major problems. Currently in Teton/Yellowstone area are we're doing GREAT!
I can't speak for the Avalanche since I've never driven one.
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08-08-2012, 03:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 19' Bambi
mt. Prospect
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2006
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You don't need a lot of power to pull the Bambi - we pull our 19' with our Sprinter, which has 154hp and about 250ft/lb of torque w/ 5 spd auto. It does fine - from AR to ON, up hills and down. Headed to Yellowstone next month. I'm not recommending the Sprinter - it's not for most people. If I had to replace it right now, I'd be looking at the Ridgeline.
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08-08-2012, 03:22 PM
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New Member
2009 16' International
Carpinteria
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4
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Thanks for everyone's input (and the humor). You guys are all great! Hope to see you on the highway somewhere...
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08-08-2012, 03:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Currently Looking...
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,112
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One thing that has not been addressed here is the possibility of "upsizing" your AS in the future. I'd go with the Chevy so you will not have to consider a larger TV if you trade up.
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08-08-2012, 07:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,161
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A couple of people here are not correct about the ride of the Avalanche it has the Suburban suspension and a smooth car like ride, not truck like. Also I don't understand the greater fuel mileage argument driving style can make more of a difference then the 1 mpg difference in fuel mileage rating. With that said either one would make a good choice to tow a bambi. Also 2013 is the last year for the Avalanche.
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