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Old 08-08-2012, 04:04 PM   #15
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Tow vehicles

I tow my 2006 19' Bambi with a 2012 Tacoma V6 Double Cab. I like the manuverability of the slightly smaller truck, and frankly the Toyota's and Honda's are just a higher quality vehicle in my humble opinion. In your case, I would go with the Honda. Again, just my opinion.

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Old 08-08-2012, 04:07 PM   #16
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I've towed my 19' International Bambi for over 15K miles with my 2007 Honda Ridgeline. It tows great and is very comfortable. I've been in moutainous areas and very hot areas and so far have not had any major problems. Currently in Teton/Yellowstone area are we're doing GREAT!

I can't speak for the Avalanche since I've never driven one.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:16 PM   #17
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You don't need a lot of power to pull the Bambi - we pull our 19' with our Sprinter, which has 154hp and about 250ft/lb of torque w/ 5 spd auto. It does fine - from AR to ON, up hills and down. Headed to Yellowstone next month. I'm not recommending the Sprinter - it's not for most people. If I had to replace it right now, I'd be looking at the Ridgeline.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:22 PM   #18
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Thanks for everyone's input (and the humor). You guys are all great! Hope to see you on the highway somewhere...
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:34 PM   #19
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One thing that has not been addressed here is the possibility of "upsizing" your AS in the future. I'd go with the Chevy so you will not have to consider a larger TV if you trade up.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:01 PM   #20
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A couple of people here are not correct about the ride of the Avalanche it has the Suburban suspension and a smooth car like ride, not truck like. Also I don't understand the greater fuel mileage argument driving style can make more of a difference then the 1 mpg difference in fuel mileage rating. With that said either one would make a good choice to tow a bambi. Also 2013 is the last year for the Avalanche.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:14 PM   #21
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Wazbro is correct and I stand corrected.

I did a quick review of late model Ridgelines and the Avalanche on the Edmunds site.

Fuel mileage is the same 15 city/21 highway. Edmunds says the Avalanche has a nice ride. They said the Ridgeline has an extra nice ride.

Interesting that the Ridge has a payload rating of 1,550lbs vs the Avalanche 1,350lbs. The 4,500lb Ridge can carry 200lbs more than the 5,800lb Avalanche. Hummm.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:54 PM   #22
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Yes, according to Edmunds there are significant differences between the 2 vehicles in capacity...here is the rest of the story as it relates to real world towing/hauling (from Edmunds);
Maximum towing capacity
Honda
5000 lbs.
Avy
8100 lbs.

Maximum payload
Honda
1546 lbs.
Avy
1326 lbs.

Gross weight
Honda
6050 lbs.
Avy
7000 lbs.

Stream on...hope some of these replies addressed your specific questions...
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:29 AM   #23
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Wazbro , caught my mistake before i could get back here. 2013 is the last Avalanche !
POI : the E85 is wasted Technology on the trk. E85 has low HP and it drinks it almost twice as Fast. LOW MPG. Also could never figure out why the 8/4 Eng. is in 8 mode at a stop light?
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:51 AM   #24
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This is just above 10'000' on the way to Gunnison, Co. Been towing this for 5 years and more than 20k, mostly mountains. No problems and I don't hold anybody back. Truck has 90k and runs like new.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:47 AM   #25
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We've enjoyed our '05 Ridgeline for 6 years before we got the AS this year. It is perfect. It has been the best "car" for us and has become a super TV. As a TV, we drove through the mountains of southern Colorado and and had no problems at all! It handles great and gives great storage room. We love the under bed storage area and the full back seat area as well. A bicycle with both tires on fits right in that back seat!

For all the reasons why we love it as a car, we love it as the TV. We don't have the bed cover. The back seat and under complartment provides plenty of protected storage. The 16' and the Ridgeline - ours is silver! (a coincidence) - works great!

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:40 PM   #26
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We just got a 16' International Bambi and decided to get a Tundra to pull it. We were very close to getting the Ridgeline. It had the most car-like ride. Three things made us change our mind. The Ridgeline has never been a big seller, and this is its last year of production. The total capacity of the Ridgeline (truck + trailer + what's in the truck + what's in the trailer) was just borderline. The towing capacity drops something like 250 lbs for each person in the car. Finally, we’re a bit annoyed with Honda, because we had to replace the transmission in our Civic last year at only 86K. Nothing we did, it’s a known problem in that model year – sudden and complete failure of the transmission.

Some truck models had limits on the frontal area of the trailer. We were never quite sure what to make of these and the trailer specs don’t include this value.

In the end, we decided we wanted a little more power. We live in Western Washington. You pretty much can’t go anywhere without going over a mountain pass.
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Some truck models had limits on the frontal area of the trailer. We were never quite sure what to make of these and the trailer specs don’t include this value.


All vehicles have frontal area restrictions for trailer towing, but it can be harder to find that info than not. Generally, the "smaller" vehicles play this info up more. The A/S advantage is in the fully-radiused corners and curves; fully-enclosed underside and low ground clearance (all aerodynamic concerns as is the FA problem). A 23' A/S takes, generally, 20% less HP to move down the road at the same speed than an equivalent length "box" trailer.

Or, one could pull a larger trailer at a lower speed. Etc. This concern is part of the equation in trying to find the best match between TV & TT, but is aimed at the 97% of trailers that have no [real] aerodynamic qualities (were all of them A/S, the FA restriction would be raised in total square feet, IOW).

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According to JD Powers 2012 Dependability analysis, there are only 2 problems per 100 vehicles difference between Chevrolet and Honda. That is almost an inperceptable difference. (this is a study of 3 year old, 2009 models, which IMO is a better yardstick than the initial quality study)

This old line that Japanese is always better is a very old truth which is now mostly a myth.

2012 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study | J.D. Power Autos

Toyota still does a great job and is the industry benchmark, but many of the "assumed" nameplates, aint all that great.

I'd go Avalanche, but I'm biased.

BTW. Avalanche was the 2012 award winner...and it has exactly the same mileage ratings as the Ridgeline.
http://autos.jdpower.com/research/Truck/index.htm
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