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Old 12-17-2016, 04:41 PM   #21
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My 1995 PowerStroke gets to sit in our garage unless we have the Avion out, or if I need to use it for something in particular. When I used to drive it to work daily, I loved having the block heater. Didn't "need" it to get the truck started (keep good batteries and good glow plugs), but yours truly liked being able to get heat that much faster in the cab! I had a timer on the cord so it would come on 3-4 hrs before I wanted to leave for work.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:10 PM   #22
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Our Duramax starts amazingly well for a diesel - I imagine all the modern ones are similar.

The glow plugs seem to take no more than a few seconds before the light goes off. Lots of cranking power with the two 12v batteries in parallel.

I only use the block heater of we get almost a record low here near Toronto, otherwise no need. Probably no need even then, but I figure it might help a little.


When I do use it, I put it on a timer so that it only starts to heat up about four hours before we will use the truck in the morning .


To your question about animals - It is not at all a major issue, and we have never experienced any such problems.

Did have a neighbour once who started his car that had been plugged in and demolished a cat that got tangled with the fan blades / belts. Not pretty I'm sure. At least it was their own cat and not other neighbour's' pet!

That was when I lived in Northern Ontario where temperatures down to -40 happened often for a few days each winter. That is where the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales cross - ie, -140C = -40F !

Snow is nice and crunchy in those temps and your eyelids tend to stick together! There, you need the block heater for diesel AND gas engines!

Luckily doesn't get that cold near Toronto where we now live!


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Old 12-17-2016, 05:20 PM   #23
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GM's recommendation is to use the block heater at or below 0* F. That's for both the 2.8L and the 6.6L. It isn't necessary for starting above that temperature.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:28 PM   #24
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My TV is not my daily vehicle.

I have a battery tender wired together with the block heater.

It is on a timer for 4 hours ----2am-6am.

I also have a temp activated adapter that turns on at 39 degrees and off at 50 degrees.

Nothing worse than trying to turn over a diesel on a cold morning that has not been run in weeks.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:51 PM   #25
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Use mine when it gets in the twenties
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:21 PM   #26
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Use mine when it gets in the twenties
Me too. I've never had our truck not start due to cold, but it's easier on the engine to have it warmed up a bit before cranking.
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:42 PM   #27
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The only temperature that matters is how cold it is when you start the engine. I plugged in the bus if it would be below 20 when I started it. One hour is enough, but 3 hours was better.
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:51 PM   #28
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Yes teens and down. And treat the fuel. And good glow plugs and good batteries. Have done it for 25 or more years. Near 0 often in winter here. Truck has heater so why not use it? My current F 250 7.3 is 15 years old and I believe the heater saves wear and tear on cold starts. It's a daily driver.
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:25 PM   #29
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My owner's manual gave a recommendation of when to use the block heater. You might check yours.
Whadda they know??
Four hours on a timer should be sufficient!
And overnight 'on' doesn't make it any better.
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Old 12-18-2016, 09:50 AM   #30
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It is below zero, winds gusting to 30-40 MPH, just got a foot of snow and the X is buried. The cord to plug the X in with is under the Airstream, which is also buried in snow. My neighbor just came to borrow the snow blower and do our drives and walks. Since I do not need the X until April, maybe I will not plug it in and stay inside watching the Bears beat the Packers.
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:16 PM   #31
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-15F here the other night. Had not plugged in my 2012 RAM w/Cummins 6.7L and it started without a problem. Having said that, my usual habit is to have heater on a timer to come on at 3am when temp is below 0F. Easier on engine and starter, warms up faster also. Local diesel has been winter grade since early November.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:13 PM   #32
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The engine block heater is just barely about being able to start (as necessity is quite far north), it is about "fast" coolant warmup versus "slow" engine oil warmup. It is useful year round.

I bought and installed a bumper plug for my Cummins from Genos Garage. Electricity use is negligible, although a timer is preferred by some. Two hours minimum, four hours better. Overnight, best.

To reach operating temperature of the engine oil is about 45-miles on a warm day. Lubrication is substandard until then. Wear is higher than normal. The block heater will reduce the time and/or distance. Expect about 50F above ambient at startup.

Adding an Arctic Fox or Kimm Hotstart glue-on oil pan heater is an accessory tactic. Same for battery warmers.

If the day or days ahead will be 40F or lower, the use of a MOPAR winter front (which covers all heat exchangers under hood) is an excellent idea.

I use a grille block when solo in the time between those days and the ones where AC use is needed.

I found that even in hot South Texas that running T6 Rotella synthetic made for easier engine starts than 15W-40 dino.

A diesel pickup truck run solo won't keep coolant temperatures high enough to be ideal in cool to cold weather. Latest engines are better able to keep temps up, but the old ways are easy to use.

Winter fuel blend is only 4% less energetic than summer blend. Any fall off in MPG is failure to equip and operate truck properly.

Diesels won't warm up by extended idling. No engine manufacturer will recommend it.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:49 AM   #33
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-15F here the other night. Had not plugged in my 2012 RAM w/Cummins 6.7L and it started without a problem. Having said that, my usual habit is to have heater on a timer to come on at 3am when temp is below 0F. Easier on engine and starter, warms up faster also. Local diesel has been winter grade since early November.
These new engines with computers are so good, and the new oils are so much better than in the past. I remember very well what we had to do to start the diesel engines in the 1960's to middle 1990's when they got better...the new technology is wonderful..
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:24 AM   #34
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These new engines with computers are so good, and the new oils are so much better than in the past. I remember very well what we had to do to start the diesel engines in the 1960's to middle 1990's when they got better...the new technology is wonderful..
Absolutely! I had an 81 VW Rabbit PU diesel. Stout motor, but no power at all (no turbo). If it was +15 to 20* F, it wasn't going to start without being plugged in....If it was below that....it wasn't going to start period. (without ether, which scared the crap out of me every time I was stranded. Like holding a hand grenade with the pin out). I lived in Michigan at the time, and carried the generator in the bed (under a cap). I'd go out at lunch, start the generator, and plug in the block heater so I could get home at 5!
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:03 AM   #35
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I have a 2007 diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee and lived in Montana for a year with it. The longer it sat in below 30 temps the rougher it was at start up. Also used the winter blend diesel. Once I started using the engine block heater, it ran much smoother at start up and seems heater got warm lots faster too.
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:07 AM   #36
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Got down to 5f this morning. Plugged in at 6am and disconnected at 7:40am. Engine turned over slower than normal so I'm not sure it was in long enough. Probably should've plugged it in when I went to bed at 10pm but I'm afraid of mice warming up in there. Owners manual says to use it when below 0F and plug it in two hours before start, I guess 5F is close enough. I let the engine idle while I was scrapping ice. I had to use some deicer. I need to invest in a frost shield as mentioned above.

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Old 12-20-2016, 06:22 AM   #37
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That's why if you plug it in as soon as you get home, or wherever, the block heater doesn't have to work in order to warm up the engine. It just keeps it warm. It is so much easier on the egine and parts to start a warm engine vs a cold one, why not?
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Old 12-20-2016, 11:32 PM   #38
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When I got home with my KW in the evenings and it was 35 degrees it got plugged in, the cat had a 1250 watt heater, it cost less than a dollar a night, my ram s heater is a 750 watt, never used it as it is inside...
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