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Old 08-30-2011, 09:28 PM   #29
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Dear OP:

We pulled our fairly loaded up 27FB from Chicago to Carlisle PA & back a few summers ago for my alumni weekend (650 miles x 2 = 1300). Small plywood 14' sailboat mounted on roof rack with 2 kids, a dog, and a full TV. Pulled like a dream - equalizer W/D system a must for any TV this short pulling a "long trailer". Was a fluke situation as my recent tow vehicles have been much longer wheel-bases - F350 supercrew 4x4 diesel and a 2011 F150 eco-boost supercrew 4x4 V6 with tow package. Regardless proper weight distribution and attention to axle weights and limits is important. The coolest thing about the Toureg is that it is far heavier than it appears (still a little tail wagging dog) and the air bag suspension with auto adjustments made hook up and un-hitch a breeze - darn VW self leveled after you dropped the coupler on the ball.

I would never purchase a Toureg as a TV for anything north of 23' - too short IMO and darn expensive to maintain if you run into issues like electrical (just ask), tires (just ask again) and unique parts not available in every town. Did not read prior replies ( 3 kids trying to go to bed) but hope this proves useful -Good Luck! Erikson
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:31 PM   #30
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Use an AirSafe Hitch

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So, do the wdh and sway bars soften how an F-350 rides? As near as I could tell, unless we were going over RR tracks, the truck basically drove about the same with the trailer hooked up or not. If the truck doesn't ride any different, and the trailer is mechanically coupled to the frame of the truck, I am wondering if the upshoot is that an unloaded F350 is just basically set up too stiff in the first place to treat the AS as gently as we would like.

I wouldn't buy an F350 as a tow vehicle for this trailer. But it's the only thing I can find to lease for six weeks or more that's set up to tow, with the electric brake hook ups. We would much prefer a big old classic Cadillac convertible with a cushy ride and 400 cubic inches, but it doesn't look like anyone thinks those will do it. I'll look for smooth pavement with the F350. and go slower when I can't find it.
Gringo,
I have a 2006 F350 crew cab, long bed Dually. After experience and conducting exhausting research, I discovered it is possible to damage the Airstream due to the stiff suspension of the F350; particularly if the F350 is equipped with the bed Camper, snowplow, or FX Offroad package(s). My F350 has all three. Within a few miles of towing, I developed a stress crack in the aluminum skin under the front locker door, and 2 popped rivets out of the frame of the front locker door of my 2007 27FB. Freaked, I then accomplished more research and discovered the AirSafe hitch. This seemed a better solution than air bag truck suspension solutions. I can also use my Reese Dual Cam WD setup with the AirSafe hitch. It was pricey, but it seems to have resolved my issues; over 8000 miles of towing and no more cracks in the skin, popped rivets, open drawers in the trailer. There is also a very noticeable smooth movement of the trailer when crossing RR tracks or traveling over rough roads since the hitch breaks the metal mechanical connectivity of the trailer to the F350 via an airbag integrated into the hitch. Speaking from experience I recommend you conduct research before you damage your trailer. I also recommend to ALWAYS to use an anti-sway device; for the safety of family, others, and the liability, perhaps faced, if the rig is wrecked and one is determined negligent by authorities for not employing proper tow equipment.
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:01 PM   #31
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Dear OP
We tow our 24 FT Tradewind with a 2006 Touareg and it's pulls it like a dream.
We use sway bars with a Reese hitch.
I wish I could help you out more but this all falls under my husbands department.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:03 AM   #32
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BMW X5's Been Doing It For 35,000 Miles

Ref my avatar; I've been towing a 2002 ASCL 31' with my 2001 BMW X5 V8 and Hensley for over 35,000 miles with absolutely no problem. The Touareg and X5 are similar vehicles.
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:44 PM   #33
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Check out Can-am RV website in Canada.
Some of these trailers are pulled by 6cyl motors
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Old 08-31-2011, 02:15 PM   #34
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I just returned from a 7,000 mile trip towing my 1993 30' Excella with a 2010 Honda Odyssey & Hensley hitch. Performed wonderfully all across North America, including the Badlands, Black Hills / Mt. Rushmore, Grand Tetons, Yellowstone & Canadian Rockies (took the Crowsnest Pass - Hwy 3). Felt absolutely no cross-winds at all, even though there obviously would have been plenty across the prairies.

As such, I'm sure you can pull with the V8 Toureg with the proper sway control / equalizing hitch equipment. The experts at CanAM RV in London, Ontario can help you with any towing combination...
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:50 AM   #35
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28 foot Argosy not loaded with radials came home from Colorado avg. 12 mpg in the V10 TDi at 70mph, slow to 65 and I get 15mpgI purchased the vehicle for towing, kids and wife that's not so good with big cars. I also tow a Cobalt 252 (7900lbs) no problem other than it looks like the egg is towing the chicken.
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Old 09-23-2011, 03:13 AM   #36
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True, true - of course there is Andy up North and I do value what he does to TRex's and Peppers...
Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

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tow 27 f b with toyota tundra 5.7 crew max/hensley and love the combo
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Old 09-23-2011, 03:29 AM   #38
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Who cares what hitch Gingo uses, I want to see him tow it to the TCI! Wow, that would make news.

Tell Norman I said hello when ya get there.
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Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

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Not all that impressive, I'm sure I could do 0-60-0 pulling my Argosy with the F150 in 1300 ft with the brake controller disabled.

Regardless of what it WILL do, even if you never have a mishap if you tow a few times a year you'll spend way more on VW brakes than you will on a good under-$150 brake controller.
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Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

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Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

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1300 ft is 1/4 mile and based on 60 MPH your stopping time would be 30 seconds. Most vehicles can stop from 60 MPH in between 120 and 140 feet or 3 seconds.

I think you might have added a zero to your number...
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1300 ft is 1/4 mile and based on 60 MPH your stopping time would be 30 seconds. Most vehicles can stop from 60 MPH in between 120 and 140 feet or 3 seconds.

I think you might have added a zero to your number...
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