Anyone towing 27FB (7,600 lbs / 770 lbs tongue) with a V8 or TDI Touareg ?

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by Gringo

Oh, I DO want to take advantage of it, if I need it. If I don't need it, why add it?

Isn't it amazing how many people survived towing trailers behind unrated cars before they knew better? I thought I was being daring by sleeping on the rear hatshelf of my parents 56 Ford all the way from Belle Fourche to Leon County, Texas when I was five years old.

Gringo,

I don't believe they were dealing with an 1175lb tongue weight.

Our 63 Safari was barely 575!! I know our 53 Victoria would have been able to tow it, would I want to on todays roads at 65mph.....NOT

Bob

[fmr.capt.evi]

"Not this cr@p again..." Really? How welcoming that must feel to a newer member who's simply asking legitimate questions.....maybe some of us need a little break (like Mr. "2air")?

[gamana]

Originally Posted by fmrcaptevil

"Not this cr@p again..." Really? How welcoming that must feel to a newer member who's simply asking legitimate questions.....maybe some of us need a little break (like Mr. "2air")?

Hope 2Air is coming back soon. I think he is great for new members. He posted links for me on all the pertinent threads and was always straight to the point. His tutorial on the Propride Hitch was excellent.

Back to the original subject, I recently towed with an older F350 (2008) than mine. The 2011 F350 is way smoother and more comfortable. Ford made a huge improvement. This pickup is actually more comfortable than my SUV.

[dkottum]

Actually the original subject asked if anyone towed a 27FB with a Touareg. A few very good and useful comments, not sure how F350 works into this. Would like to hear more experience and recommendations with the Touareg.

doug k

[JFScheck]

Because I most likely am one of the members here who have LOTS of experience towing with a 2005 Cayenne S, 2009 Touareg TDI and still tow with a 2011 Cayenne Turbo (but only my motorcycle and 911 car trailers)...

Yet for my Airstream - I now only tow with a F-350...

As for this "Cr@p Again" statement - we keep rehashing the same thing in this same thread and we are not even on topic....

No wonder why "2Air" has been on vacation....

[AlbertF]

If my comments were made in ignorance, I'll take them back. My experience was having a friend tow our 1975 Overlander with a 2500HD (essentially a "1 ton"). It towed easily at speed in a crosswind, with no instability. However, it certainly rode a lot harder than the car we normally tow with, and I'm mindful of Inland Andy's comments about front separation. If I were to tow with a truck, I'd be far happier with a well set up half ton.

I should note that the old Overlander's tongue weight is probably about 600lbs the way it was loaded, not 1000 or more.

[Gringo]

Originally Posted by JFScheck

As for this "Cr@p Again" statement - we keep rehashing the same thing in this same thread and we are not even on topic....

actually, the 350 got brought up here as the suggested alternative to the VW and I asked some questions about hitches with the 350/27FB combo. We're gearing up for our first long trip in a brand new trailer, and the only vehicle I can lease to tow it is an F-350. Made some sense to me to ask my question to people who are stating that they tow 27FBs with F350s. Not sure where I got that incredibly stupid idea to ask a question about towing a 27FB with an F 350 here on a thread about towing 27FBs where several people have suggested using F350s. I'll try to refrain from asking questions on your threads going forward.

I guess I missed all the rehashing of the same thing over again in the same thread. Not sure how I missed it, since the thread is only two pages long. In fact, I can't find the original exchange about hitches on the 350 here in this thread, since my question was obviously the last of the many, many rehashes. I must have been distracted in my joy at finding someone who is towing a 27FB with the Ford.

Would it cause less anxiety if I started another topic asking about towing an FB27 with an F350, so that you could refer me over to this thread where I could read the initial comments on it, and then catch the hash and rehashes that I obviously missed here?

[martian]

Timoveevich

I can't speak directly to your question, but I can tell you of my experience. So just a thought, compare your vehicle's specs to current model Toyota Sequoia. My TV is a 2008 Sequoia with a V8 5.7 liter engine producing 381hp at 5,600 rpm. The wheel base is 122 inches and length is 205 inches. GVW is 7,300 lbs. The Sequoia pulls my 2011 Flying Cloud 27FB like a dream so if your vehicle has similar specs, I should think your experience should be similar. Wish you the best.

[Valhalla2Go]

Dear OP:

We pulled our fairly loaded up 27FB from Chicago to Carlisle PA & back a few summers ago for my alumni weekend (650 miles x 2 = 1300). Small plywood 14' sailboat mounted on roof rack with 2 kids, a dog, and a full TV. Pulled like a dream - equalizer W/D system a must for any TV this short pulling a "long trailer". Was a fluke situation as my recent tow vehicles have been much longer wheel-bases - F350 supercrew 4x4 diesel and a 2011 F150 eco-boost supercrew 4x4 V6 with tow package. Regardless proper weight distribution and attention to axle weights and limits is important. The coolest thing about the Toureg is that it is far heavier than it appears (still a little tail wagging dog) and the air bag suspension with auto adjustments made hook up and un-hitch a breeze - darn VW self leveled after you dropped the coupler on the ball.

I would never purchase a Toureg as a TV for anything north of 23' - too short IMO and darn expensive to maintain if you run into issues like electrical (just ask), tires (just ask again) and unique parts not available in every town. Did not read prior replies ( 3 kids trying to go to bed) but hope this proves useful -Good Luck! Erikson

[lylesgl]

Originally Posted by Gringo

So, do the wdh and sway bars soften how an F-350 rides? As near as I could tell, unless we were going over RR tracks, the truck basically drove about the same with the trailer hooked up or not. If the truck doesn't ride any different, and the trailer is mechanically coupled to the frame of the truck, I am wondering if the upshoot is that an unloaded F350 is just basically set up too stiff in the first place to treat the AS as gently as we would like.

I wouldn't buy an F350 as a tow vehicle for this trailer. But it's the only thing I can find to lease for six weeks or more that's set up to tow, with the electric brake hook ups. We would much prefer a big old classic Cadillac convertible with a cushy ride and 400 cubic inches, but it doesn't look like anyone thinks those will do it. I'll look for smooth pavement with the F350. and go slower when I can't find it.

Gringo,
I have a 2006 F350 crew cab, long bed Dually. After experience and conducting exhausting research, I discovered it is possible to damage the Airstream due to the stiff suspension of the F350; particularly if the F350 is equipped with the bed Camper, snowplow, or FX Offroad package(s). My F350 has all three. Within a few miles of towing, I developed a stress crack in the aluminum skin under the front locker door, and 2 popped rivets out of the frame of the front locker door of my 2007 27FB. Freaked, I then accomplished more research and discovered the AirSafe hitch. This seemed a better solution than air bag truck suspension solutions. I can also use my Reese Dual Cam WD setup with the AirSafe hitch. It was pricey, but it seems to have resolved my issues; over 8000 miles of towing and no more cracks in the skin, popped rivets, open drawers in the trailer. There is also a very noticeable smooth movement of the trailer when crossing RR tracks or traveling over rough roads since the hitch breaks the metal mechanical connectivity of the trailer to the F350 via an airbag integrated into the hitch. Speaking from experience I recommend you conduct research before you damage your trailer. I also recommend to ALWAYS to use an anti-sway device; for the safety of family, others, and the liability, perhaps faced, if the rig is wrecked and one is determined negligent by authorities for not employing proper tow equipment.

[meredith]

Dear OP
We tow our 24 FT Tradewind with a 2006 Touareg and it's pulls it like a dream.
We use sway bars with a Reese hitch.
I wish I could help you out more but this all falls under my husbands department.
good luck
Meredith

[withidl]

Ref my avatar; I've been towing a 2002 ASCL 31' with my 2001 BMW X5 V8 and Hensley for over 35,000 miles with absolutely no problem. The Touareg and X5 are similar vehicles.

[william Haym]

Check out Can-am RV website in Canada.
Some of these trailers are pulled by 6cyl motors

[Geobie07]

I just returned from a 7,000 mile trip towing my 1993 30' Excella with a 2010 Honda Odyssey & Hensley hitch. Performed wonderfully all across North America, including the Badlands, Black Hills / Mt. Rushmore, Grand Tetons, Yellowstone & Canadian Rockies (took the Crowsnest Pass - Hwy 3). Felt absolutely no cross-winds at all, even though there obviously would have been plenty across the prairies.

As such, I'm sure you can pull with the V8 Toureg with the proper sway control / equalizing hitch equipment. The experts at CanAM RV in London, Ontario can help you with any towing combination...

[Antipode]

28 foot Argosy not loaded with radials came home from Colorado avg. 12 mpg in the V10 TDi at 70mph, slow to 65 and I get 15mpgI purchased the vehicle for towing, kids and wife that's not so good with big cars. I also tow a Cobalt 252 (7900lbs) no problem other than it looks like the egg is towing the chicken.

[Antipode]

Originally Posted by JFScheck

True, true - of course there is Andy up North and I do value what he does to TRex's and Peppers...

Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

look out here come the pies.

[rashton]

tow 27 f b with toyota tundra 5.7 crew max/hensley and love the combo

[Antipode]

Who cares what hitch Gingo uses, I want to see him tow it to the TCI! Wow, that would make news.

Tell Norman I said hello when ya get there.

[DKB_SATX]

Originally Posted by Antipode

Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

look out here come the pies.

Not all that impressive, I'm sure I could do 0-60-0 pulling my Argosy with the F150 in 1300 ft with the brake controller disabled.

Regardless of what it WILL do, even if you never have a mishap if you tow a few times a year you'll spend way more on VW brakes than you will on a good under-$150 brake controller.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by Antipode

Has gamana owned one, driven one? My 04 V10TDi is the best tow vehichle period, (04 v 09 are not truely comparable thanks to the EPA)NO HITCH STABILIZATION, air ride and NO BRAKE CONTROLLER. I can stop from 60 in about 1300 feet, no skid. They're not to bad by themselves against the early turbo Cheyenes. I used to own one, now I own them all before '07.

look out here come the pies.

Pie #2

Please keep us posted on where & when your going........

Bob