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02-23-2007, 07:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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You may want to check these folks out. There are several others as well
1960-66 Chevrolet and GMC Pickup, Suburban,Restoration Parts
I've never used them but they do appear to have a good sized list of restoration pieces. I'm sure Mel and the others on the forum have a good list of parts suppliers. If you check out the vintage TV thread on this forum you'll find a few Suburban's that look pretty neat. From those owners you may be able to obtain some tips and tricks as well as to what works best when restoring with towing in mind.
Gosh, are you ever going to have fun with this one. Hey, not that I'm excited for you or anything , just jealous as heck. I love 'burbs - of course my wife will tell you that I love any old vehicle and a drive anywere will elicit a vast number of "holy cow, look at that (whatever the vehicle of the moment happens to be as we drive past), I've always wanted one of those". Oh well, that's just me.
Barry
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02-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara
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Those V-6 engines are GMC 302 cubic inch .talked about in another thread from sometime back .A very long stroke engine ,low rpm torque engine
fitted in many GMC dump trucks .The GMC and the chevy being basically the same suburban or carry all (the travelall competitor name) .Anyhow ,not
a good engine for towing at freeway speeds and really an antique for the most part .a solid 350 V-8 and a 700R-4 or 4L60 E should do the trick ,oh
and that yellow and white is strikingly classic on that suburban ,really gives the vintage feel ,the more pastel look rather than a loud yellow,like the
early 60s impalas had . anyway ,happy restoration there and don't forget the front disc brakes for sure.
Scott
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02-24-2007, 05:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
1954 26' Romany Cruiser
1960 26' Overlander
Rockingham County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yukionna
We just purchased a 1964 Chevy Suburban to restore to use to tow our '64 Bambi II. Can anyone recommend any good sources for parts or point us in the direction of any good Suburban forum links.
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NICE. Looks like you are determined to keep the hubby hoppin! Can't wait to check it out.
Robbins Auto Supply out of Dover can get you most anything you need. I use them for my '62 and the Peanuts parts.
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02-24-2007, 06:24 AM
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The bushings in the steering column for the shifter wear out, and can cause the shifter to try to put the transmission in two gears at once (very exciting when it happens, but bad for the transmission). Many (most) people bypassed the column shifter for this reason, and installed floor shifters. If you want it to be original, the bushings are not that hard to replace, but require dismantling most of the column. And, of course, finding the bushings. If you don't care about originality, you can use the pickup truck floor shifter, available at most auto parts stores. You will have to cut a hole in the floor cover for the transmission to do this.
All this, of course, assuming it has not already been done.
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02-24-2007, 07:29 AM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
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Location: 1964 17' Bambi II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
The bushings in the steering column for the shifter wear out, and can cause the shifter to try to put the transmission in two gears at once (very exciting when it happens, but bad for the transmission).
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This vehicle has that issue. One must be very careful when shifting from first to second.
We are interested in putting the V8 engine in this vehicle -- does anyone know offhand if the V8, when installed from the factory, still used the 3-speed on the column?
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02-24-2007, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yukionna
This vehicle has that issue. One must be very careful when shifting from first to second.
We are interested in putting the V8 engine in this vehicle -- does anyone know offhand if the V8, when installed from the factory, still used the 3-speed on the column?
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You almost have to shift the transmission into reverse, before being able to go into second.
The V8 models also used the on the tree shifter for the base models, I had one in a 66. When you do this, it would be a good idea to replace the plastic bushings inside the pivot that goes between the block and frame, the clutch will depress easier.
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02-24-2007, 10:13 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Sharp looking rides...make sure you get the tow/haul switch installed!
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02-24-2007, 10:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Cool!
Nice find! We bought our '65 last May. It's got the barn doors too, and we're set to have it painted this Spring, most likely in a black/silver combo (yeah, we don't mind overwhelming people with silver when we go down the road!) Silverleeper (aforementioned hubby) has promised to send you some links. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress!
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02-24-2007, 11:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Some links.
Ok, Are you ready? This is a budding forum here. A good link and info site here. Another member and link page here. A great place for replacement rubber here. Lots of places for parts. I'll just give you a few. 1, 2, 3. Yes, I have more.... I'll send them upon request. Hope this helps and if you have any questions just ask.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
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02-24-2007, 04:12 PM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 1964 17' Bambi II
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I just returned from picking up the U-Haul car transport so I can pick up the car tomorrow. What a chore that was to find the larger size transport. Apparently U-Haul makes a couple of different sizes -- one is 75" wide and the second one is 80" wide. The wheel-wheel measurement width wise on the Suburban is about 77" so I needed the larger width car transport. It seems most of them are on their way to FL right about now! After much calling around and a couple of false leads, I finally landed one at 5 pm this afternoon. After a small misadventure with hooking up (i.e., the U-Haul center didn't know how to hook it up), I'm now all hooked up with the trailer in my yard and ready to go on Sunday morning.
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02-24-2007, 04:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
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Congratulations Nancy
That is great, dose it have two doors on the passanger side. That will be a lot of work to restore it. I am working for a friend that has a restoration shop here in Fl. for this winter. Good luck, be careful bringing it home. Marvin
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
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02-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I happened to be on the local (Vancouver) Craig's list today and this was jumping out at me:
----1957 suburban factory 4wd------ - $5000
Reply to: sale-280673357@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-02-18, 10:40AM PST
1957 Napco 4wd Suburban. Complete for restoration. Original factory drive train, all glass intact,and clam-shell rear doors. Rare vehicle. Call 604-836-0983.
- Location: langley
- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 280673357
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02-24-2007, 05:35 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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U-Haul can be a major PITA sometimes.....
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02-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari57
I happened to be on the local (Vancouver) Craig's list today and this was jumping out at me:
----1957 suburban factory 4wd------ - $5000
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So, ya gonna go for it Barry?
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02-24-2007, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
So, ya gonna go for it Barry?
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Jeepers guys, I've been thinking about it but my wife would kill me. There's another one that's probably a better deal, the problem is with this stupid stroke crap I can't even finish the 70 Chevelle or the water tank replacement in the FC, so I suspect Donna might get a tad upset if I dragged another project home at the moment. However, I do have friends with acreages where something could hide out for a while I suppose , but boy, would I be dirt when she found out....
1964 GMC Suburban Carryall 350/350 - $3500
Reply to: sale-271453861@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-01-31, 2:58PM PST
rare, super solid, running, moving, project, NO brakes, needs safety inspection, this one's from washington state, not a rust bucket like all of the ones left at the coast (probably where you are reading this from) Sonora Auto and Boat dl#30478
- This item has been posted by-dealer.
- Location: Osoyoos
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PostingID: 271453861
I do like this one though although I'd feel compelled to put a big block in it.
Barry
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02-24-2007, 06:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Suburban Question
Hello Try going to: 67-72chevytrucks.com and then
look for suburban sites there are lots of them.
Good luck ODD
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02-24-2007, 08:08 PM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 1964 17' Bambi II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Happycampers
That is great, dose it have two doors on the passanger side. That will be a lot of work to restore it. I am working for a friend that has a restoration shop here in Fl. for this winter. Good luck, be careful bringing it home. Marvin
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It's a two door model (i.e., one door on each side). The seating setup is actual 3 in the front, 2 in the middle (so that people can pass thru to get to rear) and three in the rear for a total of 8 seats. The middle and rear seats are easily removed, if needed. Brian looked the vehicle over in excrutiating detail for almost two hours before we bought it so he knows what we are getting into. The important thing is he feels confident that he can restore it all himself with the exception of the painting.
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02-24-2007, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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That's always the best part of restoring an old vehicle, be it Airstream or TV or whatever, is when you can do the vast majority of it yourself, at your own pace, and to fit your budget. There's nothing wrong with using an in-progress vehicle either, it just adds to the fun when it is done.
We'll be watching for updates.
Barry
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02-24-2007, 08:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 24' Tradewind
santa barbara
, California
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The 3 speed trans has poor gear ratios ,while first is pretty normal ,then
second ,theres a big gap between second and third gear .So when towing with it, you will find that second gear is slow going (normal) and shift to third
you find it too tall a gear and you want to go back to second ,but it revs too high .So if you want a manual trans ,go with a 4 speed or 5 speed truck trans
An SM420 is the correct 4 speed for that vehical ,and very heavy duty .
The SM465 4 speed came later and is an excellent choice .Thirdly, a 5 speed
NV4500 from a late GM truck 90s vintage with overdrive would be great.
The SM series trannys will bolt up to the bellhousing no problem as chevy
was always great about that kind of thing .The 5 speed requires a different bell housing I believe and more work to get it installed .That three on the tree
really isn't very strong so towing with it may not be the best choice .
The 4 speeds have the low low first and then the three other speeds ,but the ratios are better suited and more evenly spaced.The good thing is that they are not terribly expensive
Scott
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02-25-2007, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 1964 17' Bambi II
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
...we're set to have it painted this Spring, most likely in a black/silver combo (yeah, we don't mind overwhelming people with silver when we go down the road!)
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I can't wait to see your painting results. Be sure to post a picture or two!
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