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Old 11-20-2014, 05:41 PM   #15
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I have towed our 30 and 31, coast to coast and never folded out the rams mirrors. And I like it this way
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Old 11-20-2014, 06:11 PM   #16
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I have towed our 30 and 31, coast to coast and never folded out the rams mirrors. And I like it this way
In many states you will no be in compliance with the law if you do not fold them out because of your wide body trailer.

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Old 11-20-2014, 07:51 PM   #17
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Looked up approx weights of engines ford and dodge near 1100 , with the chev duromax at 900, so all are real close...
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:56 PM   #18
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In many states you will no be in compliance with the law if you do not fold them out because of your wide body trailer.

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Not to mention you won't be able to see much except the front of your trailer with them folded in. Plus side: At least you will know its still there.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:08 PM   #19
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Yes, we towed many miles over the last three years with a 2012 Ram 2500 (CTD) using an Equal-I-zer hitch which was a carry-over from a 1/2 T Ford TV...although with the 3/4 T you may be able to get along without the weight re-distribution if you add something for sway control. The standard stinger supplied by EQ works fine with the Ram and a 25 FB - IIRC it is in the bottom most position with 7 washers in the tilt-down rivet. It will be very comfortable for you with the ability to utilize compression braking, Tow Haul mode, and real truck tires!

The brake controller worked wonderfully and was set between 3 - 4 depending upon the terrain and load. The mirrors on the Ram rotate out and provide excellent vision to the rear with the wide angle portion zoning in on the tires/wheel wells. Tires aired to 65-68 psi unless extended hwy driving at higher than 55-65 mph; then we'd raise the tire pressure to 70-72 psi. Your truck will advise you if you try to stay at the low pressure setting of 45 psi. Many trouble-free miles @ 11-14 mpg. You will enjoy; only recently did we trade to a Chev 2500HD - the verdict is out so far as we have only one trip on the Chev.

We camped at Snoqualmie Pass last July on our way to the Region 10 Rally and Airstream Adventures NW in Covington. In 2013 we went through there on Valentine's Day ... snowing heavily. We had a very calm sense of control with the Ram and 25' AS. Welcome to the fourm and Region 10 (if you decide to WBCCI).
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:51 AM   #20
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The common wording on mirrors in most states is "Every motor vehicle that is loaded and obstructs the driver’s view to the rear shall be equipped with a mirror located to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle." This applies to our trailers or a semi truck. If you can sit in the drivers seat and see down both sides of the trailer you are good. It isn't about seeing directly behind the trailer. That is a blind spot for an AS and a semi.

Being able to look down the side you can also see the wheels as you make turns and help yourself avoid running over curbs and the like on tight turns.

One reason I leave my Voyager backup camera on all of the time is to help with that directly behind blind spot.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:38 PM   #21
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I'm not sure how those mirrors are even usable in the folded in position. I leave me up all the time. It might be "ghost trailering" but the view they afford, especially with the wide angle mirror on the bottom is better than in the horizontal position.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:37 PM   #22
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I've forgotten and left mine down when I hooked up, and you can tow the trailer with them down, but you don't have enough view to be safe, IMHO.

I agree it's better with the convex portion on the bottom, but hate the looks of them up when not towing, so I put them down. Also, can't get the truck in the garage with them up.
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Old 11-23-2014, 11:09 AM   #23
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I just leave mine down,the convex mirror is on the outside, so you can see very well,we do travel on the skinney 2 lane roads most of the time,and I don't like going down the road looking like a taxi cab with all the doors open ....have you ever seen the mirrors removed completely in down town traffic???.
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The mirrors in the "up" or towing position aren't that great and down is fully unacceptable.

And how are those tire pressure numbers decided for the Steer or Drive Axle? I think some of you might review CapriRacers comments on 2009 and later vehicle manufacturer tire pressure spec. If more was better Ram would spec it so. Best quality shocks such Koni FSD would be a better approach, first. Same for poly bar bushings if wheel response is how it is being judged.

Send your WDH scale numbers to RAM for their input. If tires are still under 10% pressure rise after 2hrs driving then it is likely best to leave it alone.

Too low on the TT and too high on the TV is not the way to go.
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:39 AM   #25
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Our Ram 2500 tows our 30' just fine, with a few minor notes:

1. I can't get the brake controller to lock up the brakes. I don't know if that's intentional, but even with the gain all the way up, I can't get them to lock by hitting the manual slider. This surprised me; maybe it applies the voltage slowly so they don't lock. They are working quite well with the truck's brakes under normal usage. (I know I don't WANT the trailer brakes to lock up, but the usual directions are to increase gain until they lock up, then back off a notch.)

2. It's a touch more squishy than our F-250 was. I assume this is due to the coil spring suspension instead of leaf springs. But I'm already getting used to it, and it's not to the point where it's a safety issue or anything like that. (Our tires are already at 75 psi from the dealer.)

3. The flip-out mirrors work great except that I have to readjust them manually each time.
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Old 11-24-2014, 04:11 PM   #26
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Have the same truck as Skater (above). Really like the coils on the rear for stability and safety. Towed my '12 28' Intl perfectly and expect the same experience when my '15 Classic 30 arrives. Major amount of torque and exhaust braking are fantastic for serious towing.
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My 2013 RAM 2500 Laramie 4x4 CC w/6.7L Cummins (leaf springs) tows our 31ft Classic effortlessly and integrated trailer brake controller works fine.
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Those coils are the advantage Ram has over Ford & Chevy. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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