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Old 12-28-2013, 09:59 AM   #15
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I wonder what this is going to do to the already crappy weight distribution and poor traction that most trucks have empty.

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Old 12-28-2013, 10:44 AM   #16
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Perry: know what you mean. this time of year I keep 150lbs of sand bags in the truck bed.
Still, I really like this F150 and modern paints should hold up better than in the past. Either that or Ford is going to be like the Chevy's of the '70's "on a quiet night you can hear a Chevy rust":-)
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:50 AM   #17
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Perry: know what you mean. this time of year I keep 150lbs of sand bags in the truck bed.
Still, I really like this F150 and modern paints should hold up better than in the past. Either that or Ford is going to be like the Chevy's of the '70's "on a quiet night you can hear a Chevy rust":-)
You could hear Vega's and Pinto's rust in the showroom.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:26 PM   #18
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That's really a nice looking truck!

I wouldn't think it would be that big of a deal to change the body panels to aluminum. The interior of the bed could still be steel or they could use a composite bed like the Toyota Tacoma.
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Old 01-03-2014, 05:18 PM   #19
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I think its safe to say the "Atlas" show truck is more akin to their "Super Duty" then F-150.

Perhaps a few cue's from the grill, etc. Don't want anyone to think the F-150 is going to get even bigger than what it already is (we have a whole tread on that topic)...
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:22 PM   #20
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heard aluminum was coming thats why I just bought the 2014 F150 super crew, ecoboost. Last of the model year. Ford isn't sure what the tow capacity will be on the new model yet. I didn't want to take any chances.
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:03 PM   #21
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Land Rover has been all aluminum since 1947.... until very recently. Now I believe they are composite mixes.
Keep in mind Ford owned Rover Group very recently. I'm certain they took at least something away from that fiasco!
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:56 AM   #22
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Ford is showing their new production aluminum truck next week at the Detroit Auto Show. My biggest concern is the cost of repair. The difference in the sheet metal strength between a 2006 GMC 2500 and a 2012 Sierra is considerable. Dinged the '12 bed and the entire panel had to be replaced as it was too thin to pound out. Cost $2000+ on a job that should have been an easy fix turned out to be very expensive. Personally, I would shy away from an aluminum bed for that reason. And, once the insurance underwriters figure it out, insurance rates will go up for collision coverage.
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:07 PM   #23
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Sorry to hijack but I have to plead ignorance here. :Blush: What do those differences in construction mean in practical to someone who tows? Thanks!
The main concern would be that unibody (no comprehensive frame-built vehicles) cannot tow as much weight and have lower payload capacities. The article that stated that Ford was planning such is a "pun," an April Fool's tale. It has been recanted as such but there is still quite a bit of sharing on the issue. Ford currently uses a ladder frame with leaf springs. This is the most heavy duty design; however, coil springs offer a softer ride and now almost reach leaf spring capacities.
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Here's another article from the New York Times about the new truck.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/12/au...inum-diet.html

I guess we'll know in a few days what this thing will look like. But I am intrigued.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:32 PM   #25
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here's a question, why are Airstream owners (the longest production aluminum travel trailer in history) so concerned about durability of an aluminum pick-up truck???
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:07 AM   #26
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Half an engine?

Hi, my Lincoln with a 5.4L V-8 engine, dual over head cams, and 32 valves is quite the engine; Well it was in 2000. It has 300 horse power and 355 lbs torque. It has done a great job of towing my 25' Safari. Now back to the 2015 Ford F-150; It has been stated that another new engine is on the way. A 2.7 L Eco-boost V-6; Half the size of my Lincoln's engine, but puts out 20 more horse power and 20 lbs more torque. [320 Horse power and 375 lbs torque] Will this match my 8,900 lbs tow rating and will this tiny engine do the job? My eyes are on the 2015 Ford F-150 with the 3.5 L Eco-boost which may top [rumored] 400 horse power.
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The main concern would be that unibody (no comprehensive frame-built vehicles) cannot tow as much weight and have lower payload capacities. The article that stated that Ford was planning such is a "pun," an April Fool's tale. It has been recanted as such but there is still quite a bit of sharing on the issue. Ford currently uses a ladder frame with leaf springs. This is the most heavy duty design; however, coil springs offer a softer ride and now almost reach leaf spring capacities.
Depends on the vehicle. Unibody is far stronger than any body-on-frame for a given application. But costs more in design and manufacture. Structural rigidity is the advantage for someone towing. Considerable weight savings as well, so payload capacities can go up, not down.

Coil spring is also more expensive to design and manufacture. And is no less "heavy duty" in a given application.

Similarly air springs are so common in 18-wheelrs that concerns over durability, etc, aren't warranted in that industry. What we put them through -- tractors and trailers -- out in the oilfield isn't needed to prove them although it does, day in and out. It comes down to good design, testing, and refinement. Air ride is a superior way of keeping driver fatigue as well as vehicle fatigue to a minimum. Freight damage is also minimized. In all this, as with the above, it's a matter first of cost. Performance is improved in many ways.

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Interesting... It seems that Ford ran its 2015 truck in the most recent Baja 1000, disguised as the previous-gen truck but running the new 2.7l Ecoboost and using the new frame and with the body panels made of the new aluminum alloy they'll be using for 2015.

LED headlights will be an option, but there's no word in the article on what the base lighting will be. The standard headlights are the most disappointing aspect of my F150 to me... they're tolerable on high beam, but dismal on low. I'm spoiled by the halogen projectors on my Legacy Wagon I guess.

2015 Ford F-150 shaves 700 pounds, adds 2.7-liter EcoBoost [w/video] - Autoblog
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