Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-22-2010, 07:01 PM   #43
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeneric View Post
... It's best not to assume what a private conversation was about when you really have no idea!
i make NO assumptions about your private notes or conversations...

reread that section above in post #39, where does it reference ANY pm?

but u aren't the only 1 getting pmz in this thread...

the commentary is related to those notes i DO have an idea about,

and the 100s of times this has already been suggested IN threads...

((eventually someone will suggest it here too...))

cheers
2air'
__________________

__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2010, 07:06 PM   #44
on the hunt
 
osolow's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
riverton , Kansas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 373
Send a message via Skype™ to osolow
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer View Post
okay folks - in go my 2c -

the wife and i looked at the chevy and toyota but finally decided on the ford due to overall consumer reports ratings, safety features/crash tests, etc.

we got a new '09 f-150 crew cab with the tow package. the 4 full doors make ALL the difference when you travel - more room for 'stuff' and easier to get to. the passenger seat is very comfortable.

we pull a 2005 22' CCD int'l and have no trouble at all. we get about 14-15 mpg towing, 18-19 otherwise. if we ever trade up to a large size we would probably then go to the -250. [ our 'home' car is a toyota matrix ]

i happen to be a ford guy from way back but that's just me.

there are always great deals on the last year's model trucks as each new model year comes out. we got our crew cab for just a wee bit more than the extended cab version. shop around - bargain hard.

recommend you test drive all sorts. don't "over-buy" a truck just because you think you might need all that power or a 4wd. you want a nce ride - you don't want to shake your AS apart.

most of all - get some thing you like! maybe even matches the AS?

good luck and happy trails

az-streamer

nice agree
__________________

__________________
osolow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2010, 08:08 PM   #45
4 Rivet Member
 
jimmickle's Avatar
 
2000 31' Land Yacht
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 497
Have you thought about a Jeep Grand Cherokee? My 1999 V8 towed my 6500# 2000 25ft Safari very well, even in the mountains on two lane roads. Later models have more powerful engines with better fuel economy.
__________________
jimmickle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2010, 08:13 PM   #46
1 Rivet Member
 
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by az-streamer View Post
don't "over-buy" a truck just because you think you might need all that power or a 4wd. you want a nce ride - you don't want to shake your AS apart.
OK, az-streamer, you had me up until this part, above. Do you think pairing an F-150 with a 19' AS is "over-buying"? Needless to say, I don't want to shake the thing apart either. I wasn't thinking of going with the largest possible F-150 engine, or a 4x4. From other threads I've read, people talk about pairing these two together with good towing capability and no problems. If you or anyone wants to weigh in on the other side, I'd be interested in hearing it. Though I might just buy one anyway.
__________________
jeneric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 08:50 AM   #47
Usually Sleepy
 
biggoofball's Avatar
 
1973 27' Overlander
East Haven , Connecticut
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,082
Images: 14
A nice third vehicle. low cost. rides nice. tows really well. body on frame.



1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon. My Argy is larger than your trailer but weighs about the same. You can buy mine if interested or find one in your neighborhood. Lots of them available in Florida as the Grandfathers who bought them stop using them.
biggoofball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 09:50 AM   #48
Patriotic
 
Chuck's Avatar

 
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston , Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,533
Images: 260
Since nobody has mentioned it yet, how 'bout a Cheby "Avalanche"? or similar..."very short bed" pickup. Kind of a cross between SUV and pickup. I know Ford makes a very short bed pickup w/ 4 full size doors...not sure how these compare, but the idea is that the somewhat shorter wheelbase would provide more maneuverability, without being "too short" to tow. It is nice to have some bed space for the inevitably dirty/smelly/fumey camping gear, without soiling the nice interior passenger space, but a traditional pickup bed (@ 6.5 or 8') is typically way more than needed.

me...I'd tow with a jeep, if I could. I need the maneuverability for plowing my driveway. (which I need to do at least as often...probably more often, than towing my trailer). It doesn't snow much in FL (at least, not YET, anyway), so that isn't an issue for the OP. But thats why these decisions are so personal. If you have the means and the space and the climate for a dedicated tow vehicle, then, of course, the correct answer is always "3/4 ton Suburban". But not everybody has that.
__________________
Air:291
Wbcci: 3752
'73 Safari 23'
'00 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 QC
Chuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:05 AM   #49
Rivet Master
 
Road Ruler's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines , South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,364
Images: 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeneric View Post
On Friday, the hubby and I signed a contract on a 2009 19' Flying Cloud Bambi.

Thing is, the tow vehicle will be my primary around-town car as well. And I hate big vehicles!Jennifer
We are in the same boat Jen. Have no interest or use for large vehicles or pick ups.

We tow with a mid sized, V6 car and use a V6 Mini Van as a grocery getter.

If for any reason we decided to get a pick up the Honda Ridgeline seems to be the right vehicle for us. Here at this link you can see what other Ridgeline owners are towing. They seem to be very happy with their vehicles.

Ridgeline's can tow (photos) - Honda Ridgeline Owners Club Forums
__________________
Airstreams..... The best towing trailers on the planet!
Road Ruler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2010, 10:37 AM   #50
Wheels Itch)(Must Travel
 
az-streamer's Avatar
 
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
- east coastal area - , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 385
Images: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeneric View Post
OK, az-streamer, you had me up until this part, above. Do you think pairing an F-150 with a 19' AS is "over-buying"? Needless to say, I don't want to shake the thing apart either..... Though I might just buy one anyway.
heck no - the f-150 would be perfect for your 19'. like i said - we have the f-150 for our '22 and we love it.

the point i was trying to make was that some folks tend to 'over-buy' their TV. they buy a massive truck with super suspension, huge engines, 4wd, etc. etc.

there are threads out there that deal with the problems caused by overly stiff suspensions shaking the AS's apart or causing problems with the frames and separation.

some people, like we did, will pair their AS and TV. we had decided on either a 19' or 22' and chose the 22' for the extra length and the floor plan. the f-150 seems like a perfect match. we saw no need to get a f-350 to pull the 22'.

also - what better excuse to go buy a new truck

as noted earlier - if we go larger in an AS we would then go larger in the TV.


bottom line - get what you like / like what you get


az-streamer
__________________
az-streamer
Jon & Deb
Phoebe & Ellis - Airstreaming Mini-Schauzers

FCU WBCCI #1601
* * * * * * *
I Donít Always Pull A Trailer
But When I Do - I Pull An Airstream
Keep Moving My Friends
az-streamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 06:44 PM   #51
Vintage Kin
 
slowmover's Avatar
 
Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 7,569
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeneric View Post
2air -- thanks for your post. I have to clarify, though, that NO ONE, publicly or privately, has suggested that I go to Canada (or anywhere else) to get a hitch or modifications. It's best not to assume what a private conversation was about when you really have no idea!
2air may have had better days . . . on the other hand, what with the thread on "whom would you like to meet" I thought of posting that, yes, I'd like to meet the person who stays a step ahead of me, is better organized, tons more experience, from whom I've learned to question old verities and search accurate information, etc. On second thought, I figured he'd backpedal as I might could be thought of as being argumentative . . . so this thread is balm to that notion. Onward, through the fog . . . .

Take it for granted that the desire for the best around here may not have much to do with price, but with performance at stake there is a lot riding on

the best vacation
the best business trip
is the one with least incident
in the face of serious odds

My "bumper sticker philosophy" about towing is:

TOWING IS ABOUT CONTROL, AND CONTROL IS ABOUT STEERING.
STEERING IS ABOUT KEEPING THE RIG
LANE-CENTERED UNDER ALL CONDITIONS!

A V8 half-ton is hard to beat in general but perhaps not in specifics (handling), yet one that is priced below fair market value due to dumb consumers is an exact bargain as depreciation, finance, and other fixed expenses over the life of the vehicle make its deficiencies easier to live with.

And the TV needs to cover a lot of contingencies as was pointed out above: travel gear, people, boondocking supplies, etc that aren't relevant to a commuter. The TV as TV is the first, most important consideration, IMO. But can I live with it otherwise?

I found that a locking cover (bed cap or tonneau) with a plastic bedliner (not spray on) allows me to quickly sort and use any extra supplies. Just throw the dirty stuff in the back.

A generic V8 half-ton in excellent condition to which I added a few better parts, outstanding hitch, and locking covered storage covers many trailers other than the smallest especially if the price is right! It may not be a Porsche Cayenne, but it'll do for a year or two (is my thinking about it). My baseline these days is that both TT & TV must have all-wheel disc brakes, sway-eliminating hitch and the best possible brake controller (the gold standard).

Don't stop reading . . (and 2Airs links are usually spot on). The owners trailer and TV may change a few times early on . . . that is common. The choice of trailer construction, roadworthiness is more important, IMO, than the specific TV. My parents settled into one trailer over 27-years, but it wasn't the first RV.
__________________
1990 35' Silver Streak Sterling; 9k GVWR.
2004 DODGE Cummins 305/555; 6-manual; 9k GVWR.
Hensley Arrow. 9-cpm solo, 15-cpm towing
Sold: Silver Streak Model 3411
slowmover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 07:47 PM   #52
Rivet Master
 
garry's Avatar
 
1969 31' Sovereign
Broken Arrow , Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,362
Images: 7
I don't personally care for Fords but the F-150 in my opinion based on the published specs would be a very good match for your AS.

Also you will find having a pick-up for those odd jobs is a bonus.
__________________
Garry
garry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 08:52 PM   #53
TahoeStream'n
 
subfan1's Avatar
 
2012 20' Flying Cloud
La Habra , California
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 831
Images: 3
We tow our 19ft Ocean Breeze with a Tahoe. The Tahoe is an everyday use and towing the trailer is a breeze.
__________________
subfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2010, 10:22 PM   #54
jm2
Rivet Master
 
jm2's Avatar
 
2002 25' Safari
1977 20' Argosy 20
northern valley , new jersey
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by garry View Post
I don't personally care for Fords but the F-150 in my opinion based on the published specs would be a very good match for your AS.

Also you will find having a pick-up for those odd jobs is a bonus.


I have enjoyed a long (26+ years !!) and satisfying experience with Ford trucks, and our TV is currently a 2008 4WD Supercab. it's fine pulling (and stopping) an '02 25' Safari, and was perfectly adequate pulling the older 31' Sovereigns. we rarely fill the back seat with bodies, more often gear. the 6.5' bed gives a good combination of wheelbase / room / carrying & towing capacity, while remaining reasonably able to parallel park on Main Street without the Trailer!

though, i would say that I think the toss next year on a 2011 will go to a diesel instead of a gas powerplant.....

more than a dozen or so years ago, my brother, a dyed in the wool GM / GMC fan ordered a '97 GMC while I ordered the new '97 F150. even he begrudgingly later said " I should have bought the Ford!".
__________________
Joseph & Gabrielle

Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci.

WBCCI 2087 - AIR 3144 - TAC-NJ2

http://defendwally.org/
jm2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2010, 11:00 AM   #55
4 Rivet Member
 
fmrcaptevil's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Weldon Spring , Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 456
Just like Airstream floorplans, each tow vehicle will have it's advantages and disadvantages. One advantage of a pickup, however, is that you will be able to display this bumper sticker: "Yes, this my truck.....No, I won't help you MOVE!!"
__________________
fmrcaptevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2010, 01:53 PM   #56
Rivet Master
 
JFScheck's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Rockville , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,474
Images: 33
Great Thread - I gotta share this with a friend of mine who just purchased a new 4x4 Ridgeline and wants an Airstream after checking mine out!!!
__________________

__________________
John "JFScheck" Scheck
2015 Roadtrek CS Adventurous XL
2015 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 XL Chassis with Mercedes BlueTec V6 Diesel
**I Love U.S.A.**
JFScheck is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
tow vehicles


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Windows- I give up! Edswife All Argosy Trailers 15 04-05-2011 08:41 PM
I don't give a rat. Mike Leary Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More... 13 09-20-2008 09:23 AM
Manual Give away tn2 All Argosy Trailers 2 01-17-2007 10:06 AM
What we give up for an Airstream rebel beck Our Community 19 10-05-2005 11:19 PM
I need to give a value for my wreck till Trailer Values 4 11-16-2004 07:55 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.