And BTW, sweet Overlander! That is really nice. Make sure you touch base with TomW, he has the exact same model and year and has done one of the best jobs on restoring it and documenting it.
No lift, no spindles no airbags. Trailer length aside Ive looked at weight combos very carefully here. We only plan on using the trailer for weekend trips and will just have to travel light. My goal is to cap the coach at 5000-5500. I'll be putting on a nice roof rack on the Yukon to allow for more storage on it, capping it at 5500-6000. I really think this can be done, and with the WD set up properly and giving myself plenty of drive time this should hold me over for a year or so, then I will upgrade the Yukon.
This whole thread got me thinking... what was the TV of choice in '67 for an Overlander?
And, how does towing a 25' '67AS compare to a '05 of equal length? Are the newer ones just heavier?
BTW, thanks again for all the input. Ayrstrm2, where in MI are you? Thats where were headed to pick up our trailer.
Not only are the new coaches heavier, they are also wider by between 4" and 8" -- the Vintage coaches were between 7' and 7' 8" wide (depending upon model and year) while the new coaches can be up to 8' 5" wide. While the empty weight of a '67 Overlander is listed as 4,180 pounds with hitch weight of 450 pounds, a 2005 25' Safari has an empty weight of 4,920 wiht a hitch weight of 680 pounds or a 2005 Classic 25' with an empty weight of 6,050 pounds with a hitch weight of 870 pounds. I am not certain about the rounding method utilized today, but in the days of our Overlanders, the typical method was to round down -- the '64 Overlanders actually measured 26' 8" but were advertised as 26' -- so a new 25' coach could be nearly 2' shorter than the Overlander depending upon the rounding method utilized for the advertised size.
Kevin
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Kevin D. Allen WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359 AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
I am not certain about the rounding method utilized today, but in the days of our Overlanders, the typical method was to round down
Kevin
They still are doing that today. In the Classic line the 34' unit is actually 34' 10". The 31' is 31'. The 30' is actually 31'. The 28' is actually 29' and the 25' unit is 25' 9". I would assume the Safari and International units have similar sizing.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo. AIR #56
'04 Classic 30' S.O.
'03 GMC Savana 2500
'08 Vespa GTS 250
We're between Port Huron and Flint, up near the Thumb, but close enought to the city to work there. PM me if you're coming this way, maybe you could stop by.
This whole thread got me thinking... what was the TV of choice in '67 for an Overlander?
To add to Terry's list, the following were typical choices of owners' who preferred automobiles:
Cadillac DeVille, Odlsmobile 98, Buick Electra 225, Mercury Monterey, Mercury Park Lane, Lincoln Continental. In addition, it was also the era when a Ford Country Squire or a Chevrolet Kingswood Estate with the largest engine woul have also been among the contenders.
The original owners of my Overlander were friends of my family, and I know they didn't care for trucks and always towed the Overlander with a car, and those tow-cars included:
1957 Mercury Monterey (A new Mercury Breezeway Sedan was on order, but the trailer arrived several weeks before the car) -- this was the towcar for their previous early 1950s Airstream 24'.
1964 Mercury Park Lane Breezeway Sedan
1969 Mercury Marauder
1975 Oldsmobile 98 Luxury Sedan
Other than the '57 Mercury, I know that each of the cars had a 390 cubic inch motor or larger with factory trailer tow equipment.
When the 1975 Oldsmobile was due for replacement in 1980, they decided to retire from traveling and sell the Overlander -- I later, unknowlingly, acquired it from the third official owner in 1995.
Kevin
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Kevin D. Allen WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359 AIR #827
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.11 Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
Thanks again for all the input. I set the Yukon up with the RSX9000's and some new 10ply Goodyear's. Wow, nice ride quality. I was still having concerns about using the Yukon as a long-term TV though.
Thanks to an understanding wife, I now have a '05 2500HD Silverado Crew w/the Duramax/Ally tranny. The Yukon should still make for a nice backup.