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10-24-2013, 12:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1969 18' Caravel
Northwest
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 325
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5.7 Tundra Real World MPG?
I'm still on the fence about getting a Tundra to replace my current 18-20 mpg Tacoma. I talked to a guy yesterday who claimed to get only 13 mpg on his Tundra empty, when just a week earlier I talked to someone that claimed to get 18 mpg pulling a big boat in the mountains. If you have a 5.7 Tundra please enlighten me with your own real world results.
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10-24-2013, 12:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Spokane
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,858
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Glad To
I have an '08 with the 5.7 and tow package. I purchased it new and it now has a tad under 60k on it. The first few years it was a daily driver for me and during the commute I was getting very close to 15. Around town it is less. On the few occasions when I drove it on the highway empty I would get 18-19.
For the last couple of years it is mainly used to tow my 25FB. I get right at 11 when towing. Just got back from 4800 mile trip through the western half of the country. Covered 12 states and went through a few passes, encountered winds both tail and head and tried to keep it between 65 and 60 on the road. Averaged 11.6 for the trip, calculated not estimated. We got as high as 14 on a short leg with the wind behind us and as low as 8.9 on a hill climb into a head wind. Mostly between 11 and 12.
It runs on regular gas, 87 octane and in Washington our gas is mixed with alcohol. I have never had a problem with this mixture but when down in some of the southern states, "regular" might mean 85 or even lower. I filled up with 85 one time in Kansas where I knew I wasn't going to be climbing many hills and it worked fine. Don't remember a hit on the mileage either.
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10-24-2013, 05:15 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1999 30' Excella 1000
Griffin
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 17
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We have a 2012 Tundra 5.7 with the towing package. We have around 11,000 miles on the truck. On the last road trip we took, without the camper, we averaged 19-20 miles to the gallon. This was manually figuring the mileage. On our trip to Florida last month pulling the camper we averaged 11. This was pulling a 31 foot airstream.
It is by far, a great truck. We sold a Dodge Dually to get the Tundra and we are super pleased.
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10-24-2013, 05:55 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 30' Classic
Hillsborough
, New Jersey
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 203
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We have the 2007 Tundra 5.7 l with the towing package. We have about 50,000 miles on it most of it towing our 2004 - 30 foot Classic. We average 17.5 mpg without the trailer but with most of our camping "stuff" in the back of the truck. Towing we get between 10 to 11.5 mpg. Those averages are consistent averages for all of our trips whether the east coast or Colorado Rockies. I keep records of all of our trips.
There are two of us and in the back of the truck I keep my bike, our camping "stuff" including my Honda 2000i and Yamaha EF 2800i ( if we need the air). Many times I also carry my kayak on the top of the truck cap.
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10-24-2013, 06:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 27' FB International
LA LA Land...
, California
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 290
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I have a 5.7L 2011 Tundra w/tow package and average 12-13 mpg towing a 27FB International (including tows in the Colorado/California mountains). When not towing, I average 17-18 mpg on the highway. Average tow speed ~ 60 mph.
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10-24-2013, 07:03 PM
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AlaskaSafari
1997 25' Safari
Fairbanks
, Alaska
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 64
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I have an '07 5.7L Tundra and after towing my 25' Safari almost 7,000 miles this summer, loaded to the gills (both the truck and trailer), I averaged right at 12 mpg. Non-towing highway mileages hovers around between 18-20 depending on how heavy my foot is.
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10-24-2013, 07:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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12 mpg towing. 16 mpg empty. I never really get a chance to calculate empty highway mileage. It's good mileage as far as I'm concerned for such a big, roomy, powerful,truck. I test drove a Ford 3.5 EcoBoost today. It was a big ole hunk o' junk in camparison.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
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10-24-2013, 07:36 PM
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BicycleStreamers
2016 28' Pendleton
Buxton
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 46
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Avg 11 mpg towing and 15+ mpg otherwise. Generally drive 60-65 mph and absolutely love driving my Tundra. Good luck.
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10-24-2013, 07:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
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I had an 07 extra cab 5.7 4x4and avg 15-16 city/hwy and 11 towing 78 Safari weighing about 5000 lbs. I now have 12 crew max 4x4 5.7 and get same mpg. Great trucks!
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10-24-2013, 08:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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On a 4,000 mile trip to Canada and back. Towing a 26' Argosy. The lowest mileage was 12 mpg and the highest was 14. Always use 87 octane or higher.
I live in the country and rarely drive in the start/stop traffic of the city. I get a consistent 20 mpg.
When towing, I use the "S" mode and limit the top gear to 4th and drive at 60mph.
All of my driving has been throughout the Rocky Mountain Region.
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10-25-2013, 11:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1969 18' Caravel
Northwest
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 325
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All of these posts are making the Tundra look much better to me. Looks as if the mileage isn't all that much different from my Tacoma. The best part is that everyone seems to be really pleased with them as well.
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10-27-2013, 08:29 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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FE is arranged this way
1] Vehicle spec
2] Climate
3] Terrain
4] Vehicle Use (Driver Skill)
Start with EPA figures (appears to be 13-18 & either 15 or 16 combined) and add a bit of improvement for warm climate / flat terrain, or deduct a touch for colder / hilly to mountainous.
I've not ever seen a problem in exceeding EPA estimates going back to the 1970's, so the revised downwards testing procedure now in use should be easy to match for a lazy driver.
If one avoids 4WD spec and uses closed shoulder tread tires (such as MICHELIN LTX A/S) mpg will be as high as can be across the range of use. Consider such an approach as Smart Spec (and for any truck would include a bed cover, etc, that eases aerodynamic quality) where the goal is the most work for the least fuel burn.
Smart Use is in an FE-consious approach. Combined trips, pre-warming of fluids, etc. It is possible (I have done it) to nearly equal highway mpg while in town with skill improvement.
For Towing a deduction of 30-40% from highway mpg is a rule-of-thumb assumption. If one records all gallons, all miles in a spreadsheet to find the actual highway mpg average this will be easy. An EPA-based deduction would show that 10.5-12.5 towing is a reasonable start.
An 11-mpg average with fuel at an average $3.50/gl is 32-cpm [cents-per-mile] for purposes of planning. This number -- cpm -- is the meaningful one to acquire as mpg actually means little by itself.
The average vacationer may cover 5k miles annually. $1600 in fuel for this vehicle.
It is the annual solo miles that matter for purposes of budgeting for the non-full-timer.
EDMUNDS calculates overall cpm for a Tundra at 15k annually over 5-years shows an overall cost of .98-cpm. And alternative tow vehicle, a V6 Dodge Charger, would be .79-cpm. Or, $10,000.
In comparing new vehicle numbers ( any numbers) start from a baseline such as this. For a towing rig it is the trailer that drives ultimate fuel consumption numbers (on this an A/S is unbeatable), but a poor choice of TV (safety and FE) will exact a higher cost at higher risk.
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10-28-2013, 10:56 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1969 18' Caravel
Northwest
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 325
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Wow! Now that there just made my brain hurt!
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10-28-2013, 12:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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I find my Tundra gets better mileage in cooler weather. We live at 4100 feet in elevation. Don't really know what the mpg would be at sea level.
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10-28-2013, 02:03 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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There are so many things that effect the MPG, it is a relative number. This summer we traveled almost 8K miles in 19 states. Different blends of gas, speed, air conditioning, trailer weight and others can push the MPG number all over the board. For what it is worth, we averaged 11.6 MPG this summer with 95% of it towing and speeds of around 62 MPH.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-28-2013, 03:00 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 28' Classic
Fresno
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 150
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I have an 08 Crewmax and get about what the above have been getting. On the freeway empty on cruise control 20. Pulling a 25 foot Excella about 14 on flat and near 11 with a combination of flat and mountains. For me a great truck and nice to know my MPG is average for the group.
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10-28-2013, 05:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover
If one avoids 4WD spec and uses closed shoulder tread tires (such as MICHELIN LTX A/S) mpg will be as high as can be across the range of use. Consider such an approach as Smart Spec (and for any truck would include a bed cover, etc, that eases aerodynamic quality) where the goal is the most work for the least fuel burn.
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There is another bonus with the Michelin LTX/AS. Every set I used on my Dodge ran 100,000 miles plus and still looked good when I pulled them. The downside was I usually had to order them. The LTX/MS is commonly stocked but not the / AS
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10-28-2013, 05:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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I got 130,000 miles from a set of Michelins on a 2007 Chevy Express.
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
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10-28-2013, 05:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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Mileage 2008 5.7
Call it an average of 10.5 pulling my 29' with my foot in it. That means 65- 71 MPH on the highways, I don't play around when I have to be someplace.
I get 15 on the highway/city average without the trailer.
Love my Tundra....
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54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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10-28-2013, 06:40 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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We have an '07 Tundra Double Cab with 4wd and the 5.7 L. engine. We also have running boards which increase weight and a hard tonneau which also increases weight, but improves air flow. We live at 6,836', although I haven't seen much difference in mileage at sea level. Our trailer maximum weight is 7,300 lbs.
Towing we get 10.5-11.5 and not towing, 16-17. Since it is virtually impossible to buy gas without ethanol blended in, our mileage has dropped slightly as the use of ethanol has become universal.
Your trailer weighs less, so that will help. Different versions of the Tundra have different weights. Different people drive differently (we don't go over 65, but mileage drops after about 55).
While it is nice to have the best gas mileage available, if you work out the numbers over the time you will own it, you will find that a few mpg doesn't make a lot of difference in total cost for most people. The Tundra is reliable and the drive train seems invincible. If I were buying a new truck, I'd look at the 4.6 L. V8 with the optional supercharger ($3,999 extra, a dealer option). It should increase mileage when not towing by quite a bit–maybe comparable to the Ford EcoBoost (the real EB mileage, not the bogus, higher EPA numbers)—but towing may not be much different. It has been hard to find out much info about the supercharger, but a deep Google effort may turn up more. You could also look at the Sequoia if you want more plushness, but probably lower mileage.
Gene
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