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Old 03-21-2015, 11:21 AM   #15
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If you live in a snowy clime (you don't) or if you go off road you will actually need a 4X4. If you stick to highways and regular rv parks you probably won't need it. I have a 4 wheel truck because it snows where I live. I can't remember putting the truck in 4 wheel while towing my Airstream. I won't argue with the others that have been stuck on grassy slopes but it hasn't happened to me.

I suppose it all comes down to, can you afford one? If so, get it and make your wife happy. You most likely won't regret having one. I like what BoldAdventure has said. He makes a lot of sense.
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:32 AM   #16
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Minor point maybe but make sure that whatever you get, be it 4x4 or 4x2 that it had " locking" rear diff. not "limited slip". They are not the same thing.


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Old 03-21-2015, 12:41 PM   #17
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Spouse knows best. Why bring extra towels? Oh we might need them. Why bring extra food? Oh we might want it. How about stopping now to camp? Sounds good to me. I don't think going down into this steep canyon is a good idea. (Oh, I should have listened to that one!)

Get the 4x4.
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Old 03-21-2015, 12:50 PM   #18
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Four wheel drive is usually not needed for most towing or camping if all you do is stay on paved roads and paved rv parks. The piece of mind you get with having it is well worth the additional cost. Most trucks also have the locking real ends and traction control systems available to help keep you from getting stuck. Unlike trucks of the olden days these new ones with four wheel drive ride pretty smooth. Unhitched ,you can roam to more places that would be off limits to two wheel drive trucks. Also, you can pick up good karma points when you help out fellow traveler's that get stuck with their two wheel drive's. Wonder if Lewis and Clark today would choose four wheel drive if they were Airstreamers?
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Old 03-21-2015, 12:51 PM   #19
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I have seen a 4WD on level ground almost bury itself trying to get off wet grass on a clay like soil, without a 27ft trailer on behind! Once it broke through the grassy surface and the tires were coated in clay like mud, it was over. It required them to call ANOTHER tow truck to extricate themselves.

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There is a right way and a wrong way. Easy on the gas vs. gunning it. This may not have been the case here but I would guess this was a gunner.
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Old 03-21-2015, 12:57 PM   #20
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Minor point maybe but make sure that whatever you get, be it 4x4 or 4x2 that it had " locking" rear diff. not "limited slip". They are not the same thing.


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True point as if you order a 4WD without either you actually have a 2WD truck. That being said there are pros and cons to both.

A limited slip is a have and forget item as it will automatically engage and disengage should wheel slip occur. The con is that at speed on ice going up a slight incline the axle may lock up and the truck will start to swerve to one side or the other. It does take a gentle and smart approach to the gas pedal on very slippery conditions at speeds with a limited slip. They have also been manufactured for years, are pretty bulletproof and will disengage to allow for turns without damaging gears.

A locker takes a lot more thinking about when to engage or not to engage as once locked the rear axle will not tolerant any speed difference between the two wheels on that axle without possibly damaging the pumpkin gears. A locker is also a lot more expensive $1,500 CDN versus $400.00 CDN for the Ford version. Also they will be more to maintain as they do have, in the Ford case an electrical motor actuator. ARB makes beautiful lockers that are air actuated.

I personally love lockers and had them on my Toyota Landcruiser but they are more applicable IMHO to true off road situations and rely on the user being smart about how to use them.

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Old 03-21-2015, 01:06 PM   #21
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I was referring to GM automatic locking rear end that only engages when it senses that the wheel speed on one side is going to be 100 rpm more than the other. It also only works up to 32 km/hr then disengages.


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Old 03-21-2015, 01:13 PM   #22
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Started looking for a new tow vehicle for our 27 EB this year.
The wife and I are trying to decide if we need to add the 4x4 option when buying a new truck.
I feel that we live in lower Alabama and do most of our camping during warmer months so we really would not use it.
She feels that it would come in handy when we would need it.
It is a big investment, so want to do it right.
Thinking about a 2500 GMC truck, most likely a diesel.
So 4x4 or not?
If you will ordering then get the 4x4. Better resale with 4x4 on a GMC 2500 diesel. No one wants a 4x2 diesel truck. You are better off reducing the trim level than not ordering 4x4 if you are trying to meet a certain price level.

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Old 03-21-2015, 02:26 PM   #23
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I was referring to GM automatic locking rear end that only engages when it senses that the wheel speed on one side is going to be 100 rpm more than the other. It also only works up to 32 km/hr then disengages.


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True an automatic locker is locked at the rest position and will unlock if it senses one wheel needs to travel faster or slower than the other. However not as durable as a LSD.

Listen to the end of the video for what he says about 2wd tires and 4wd.

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Just noticed he said he lives in GA, doesn't that mean you have to buy a 4x4 by default? I mean what's more southern than a 4x4 truck and camping and jumping in a muddy creek.
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Just remember spinning the rear wheels will through mud rocks at your airstream! I rather not go for 4x4 with locking rear diff. Plus you got to live with the wife ! I told you to get 4x4 !

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Question 4wd or 2WD

IMHO....
“Its better to have what you don't need when you need it, than not to have it when you don’t.”
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It sounds like some of you know my wife.
Do not want to be in a situation where she is
Stuck in the mud with a 4x2 with her hand on her hip, with I told you so look.
We appreciate the input.
Now to find a good deal.
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This is one of those subjects that polarizes opinion. I won't offer my thoughts on why you should or shouldn't need 4wd over 2wd, but I will recount a little story from last year.

We had a very nice little site at a Campground not too far from London, Ontario. It was just plain grass, on a slight incline and very wet. Our TV is both 2 wheel and front wheel drive and at that time its tires were, well, a little short on tread. I pulled through onto the grass and realised that when it came time to leave, hauling that 7,000 pound trailer up the slope was going to be an issue; I was just hoping that things might dry out a little first. Things looked bad, though, with more rain and other TVs, including a 4wd truck madly spinning wheels trying to get moving forward on their sites.

Come the day we had to leave I prepared well. I fished out a couple of old rubber foot well mats, an old patio mat, my 'Lego' blocks and (of course) my pride should I need to go and beg a tow from one of the other campers. We hitched, I sat in the driver's seat and fired up the TV, then ever so carefully fed the power in.

Do you know those worn old tires actually gripped? I applied the power just enough to get her rolling and made a completely slip-free passage up to the gravel road; the only marks on the grass were left by my positioning the wheels to get hitched up.

I'm not saying that's a reason to stay with 2wd but I was really grateful that the power delivery on the van was smooth enough not to spin the wheels, as others had done that very morning, and I think the front wheel drive was better for the task at hand, pulling rather than pushing on the wet surface.

I bought a set of new tires the very next week!
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