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Old 01-21-2014, 08:57 PM   #43
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For someone wearing out tires in 40-50k miles then the second tier -- FIRESTONE or COOPER -- are probably fine. The guys I talk to in the oilfield (and when I ran hotshot) are happy enough with the Transforce series as well as the AT/3, respectively.

Reports on those are primarily from drivers (employees) or ranchers running the worst of South Texas roads (not caliche, but stone) . . where the truck is replaced as soon as it is fully depreciated. Both tires stand up well, with slight emphasis towards the latter. Cost, not performance, is the singlemost criterion.
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For someone wearing out tires in 40-50k miles then the second tier -- FIRESTONE or COOPER -- are probably fine. The guys I talk to in the oilfield (and when I ran hotshot) are happy enough with the Transforce series as well as the AT/3, respectively.

Reports on those are primarily from drivers (employees) or ranchers running the worst of South Texas roads (not caliche, but stone) . . where the truck is replaced as soon as it is fully depreciated. Both tires stand up well, with slight emphasis towards the latter. Lower purchase cost, not performance, is the singlemost criterion.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:23 PM   #45
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We had a 1998 3/4 ton suburban with 7.4 l engine. Firestones wore out at 20k miles. Michelins side and tread cracks at 25k miles. Had to replace due to steel belts showing and last and best were the Bridgestones revos. When I put the Michelins on I could feel additional sway when towing due to flex on side wall. As soon as I bought the Bridgstones, it all went away and the whole rig felt safer. We towed a Komfort travel trailer at the time.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:02 AM   #46
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I have had the Nitto Dura Grapplers for about 20k (LT285/75/17E) now and I have been extremely impressed with them. I ran Toyo HTs on the wife's 4Runner (P265/65/17) and got 70k out of them. Nitto and Toyo come from the same "genes" per se, and I know they have the E-Rated options you're looking for. When I've bought, I've been able to get decent prices too. Usually much less than the Michelins. Excellent tires in my experience.
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Old 01-24-2014, 03:15 PM   #47
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As to the quality of Cooper tires, I think they are top quality. Like others we have only used them on auto though. I would add that a company I worked for some years ago was owned by Goodyear and our president was from Goodyear. He bled Goodyear blue, but admitted Cooper made great tires, they just did not do lots of R&D, copied new stuff others developed once it was proven. That was 25 years ago, don't think anything has changed.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:36 PM   #48
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Mixing tires

I know it is best not to, but I need to. I have a couple of Firestorn Transforce tires (basically new) on my 2500 Chev. The other 2 tires are old and need replacing. I was going to go back with 2 more Transforce but now I am having to back my trailer up a very steep hill in my yard. (some days it goes OK some days Not).

I was thinking of replacing the 2 tires with the Miclelin M/s 2 tires, a little more aggressive than the transforce. Has anyone used these? I really don't think it will be a problem with the mixing.

I like the Transforce. Good tires.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:52 PM   #49
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I know it is best not to, but I need to. I have a couple of Firestorn Transforce tires (basically new) on my 2500 Chev. The other 2 tires are old and need replacing. I was going to go back with 2 more Transforce but now I am having to back my trailer up a very steep hill in my yard. (some days it goes OK some days Not).

I was thinking of replacing the 2 tires with the Miclelin M/s 2 tires, a little more aggressive than the transforce. Has anyone used these? I really don't think it will be a problem with the mixing.

I like the Transforce. Good tires.
I can't see any problem with having different tires in front and rear as long as the left and right on the front and on the rear are the same. If your vehicle were full time four wheel drive, that might be a problem.

My RWD roadster came from the factory with different tires and different size wheels on the front and back.

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Old 02-08-2014, 04:28 PM   #50
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Tires for Sale

I'm selling my 4 new (250 miles) Mich 275x65/20 LR E LTX A/T2's If anyone in the DFW area is interested. I don't want to ship them and am going Craigs list them but would rather pass on to a forum member

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Steve, I faced a similar situation when buying tires for my Tundra. I know that one of the first things most Ford 250 owners do when they first buy their truck it take off the Michelins which come on it and put on great big wheels and tires. In my case, I searched Craigslist and found a set of takeoffs from a brand new F250. They had 50 miles on them and I picked them up for $700. They were/are LTX A/T2's 275x65/20 LR E and now have about 20k miles on them. Absolutely perfect. 75% tread remaining. Perfect balance. Retail on the same tires is about $1300.




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I know it is best not to, but I need to. I have a couple of Firestorn Transforce tires (basically new) on my 2500 Chev. The other 2 tires are old and need replacing. I was going to go back with 2 more Transforce but now I am having to back my trailer up a very steep hill in my yard. (some days it goes OK some days Not).

I was thinking of replacing the 2 tires with the Miclelin M/s 2 tires, a little more aggressive than the transforce. Has anyone used these? I really don't think it will be a problem with the mixing.

I like the Transforce. Good tires.
I believe Firestone makes that same tire in a on/off road tread, called the Firestone Destination, and would probably be a better match.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

In any event, any tire the same size and weight rating should work.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:54 PM   #52
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The TransForce HT- highway tread
The TransForce AT- all terrain
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:02 PM   #53
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I believe Firestone makes that same tire in a on/off road tread, called the Firestone Destination, and would probably be a better match.
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I can say the Firestone Destination is a very hard tire, you will get squeaks and rattles you never had before, even at 45psi.
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I have a set of Firestone Destination LE tires on my Pathfinder.
These tires are noisy. They sing/whistle/hum going down the road. The Bridgestone Dueler HT tires were quieter.
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No sounds generated from any of the Michelins I had installed over 48 years. The ride was always improved over the stock factory tires. Always installed the same size as the OEM tires.
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As far as I'm concerned Michelin are the best- longest lasting, best riding- but since my tires dry rot before I use up the tread I won't pay the money for them. When I do get new tires I will get the Bridgestone Duelers (original equipment).
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