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Old 01-12-2014, 08:08 PM   #29
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Peerless Tire Centers here in Denver carry Coopers
Thanks, but we have no Peerless Tire Centers here, but Discount Tire does handle Cooper.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:26 PM   #30
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I have only had Coopers on our passenger car. No real complaints. With the proper tire rotations we have gotten the approximate rated mileage from them. One thing I did notice is that Cooper tires have less rated mileage than other tires.
I noticed that on December 30th, 2013 Cooper decided to terminate the merger with an Indian company - Apollo Tyre. Glad to hear that Cooper will stay in Ohio.

That said our company trucks (mostly 3/4 ton) use Firestone Transforce and seem to hold up well to the city streets and construction work.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:38 PM   #31
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We're getting Coopers for the truck in just a day or two. Surely they'll do better than the current tires, which, though not that old, cracked all to pieces and are as hard as metal. I've had Coopers on the MG for years and, to my amazement, are still soft feeling and without cracks.

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Old 01-21-2014, 07:37 AM   #32
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We actually do a little off-roading at times with our tow vehicle, and have started thinking about maybe some on/off road tires. I've also heard and read some good things about Hankook tires, and wondering if anyone has experience with these: Tire Details - Discount Tire

They have some good reviews.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:17 AM   #33
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Just a thought. If you like the Michelins why not stick with them? You mentioned the $1000 cost but you didn't mention what the others would run you. If you can get a set for $800 then the question is, are you willing to change for a $200 savings? If the Michelins have been good, are you willing to take a chance on something else for a couple hundred bucks?

Two years ago my brother was planning a 4000 mile trip with his white box trailer. The cost of gas was moving up and he decided that he couldn't afford the trip. I tried to point out to him that even if it went up 25 cents a gallon, the cost difference would be close to $100. So, he was willing to stay home to save $100.

If you just want to try another brand then that is different. I don't have any experience with Coopers but I do run Yokohamas on my Tundra and am pleased with them. I live where it snows and I need something a little more aggressive than a highway tread.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:22 AM   #34
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I know this has been discussed before, and I've read those threads, but this is sort of a specific question. My truck will need tires before the upcoming summer driving/vacation season, and so I'm in the shopping mode. The truck is equipped with Michelins now, and they are great tires, but only have about 2/32" legal tread left, and a set of them new pushes $1,000.

I've heard that Cooper tires are pretty good and wondering if anyone here is using them, and if so how have they worked for you? Specifically I am interested in the Cooper Discoverer H/T in load range E. A set of them would be about $400 less then the Michelins.

Thanks for any input you can give.
I say go with the Coopers because I live in Mississippi and Cooper has 2 plants here- 1 in Clarksdale and 1 in Tupelo-
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:24 AM   #35
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I have run 5 sets of Michelin LTX/as on my 99 Dodge 3/4 ton. Each set lasted over 100,000 miles. The real question may be can you wear them out before time makes it prudent to replace them
I got 130,000 out of a set of Michelin's on a Chevy Express 2500.
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Just a thought. If you like the Michelins why not stick with them? You mentioned the $1000 cost but you didn't mention what the others would run you. If you can get a set for $800 then the question is, are you willing to change for a $200 savings? If the Michelins have been good, are you willing to take a chance on something else for a couple hundred bucks?

Two years ago my brother was planning a 4000 mile trip with his white box trailer. The cost of gas was moving up and he decided that he couldn't afford the trip. I tried to point out to him that even if it went up 25 cents a gallon, the cost difference would be close to $100. So, he was willing to stay home to save $100.

If you just want to try another brand then that is different. I don't have any experience with Coopers but I do run Yokohamas on my Tundra and am pleased with them. I live where it snows and I need something a little more aggressive than a highway tread.
I understand your logic, and do not dispute it. The last truck I had, I wanted to replace the Michelins with Coopers, had an appointment to get them, and then after they had the wheels and tires off the truck they came to me and said, "you wouldn't mind if we upgraded you to the Perrelli's, for the same price, would you?". Didn't want Perrelli's, but I took them, and was sorry later because unless I ran the rear tires above max air pressure, they were "squirmy".

I did that because I needed tires, but knew I wouldn't keep the truck another 50,000 miles.

At this point, having filed a Lemon Law claim on this truck (which I seriously doubt will ever come to fruition) I was just thinking that I had time before I HAD to change tires, and would ask for other's opinions and maybe even save a buck or two. I am not willing to do an alpha test, so the reason I asked for other's opinions.

I have Yokohama's on my FJ Cruiser, actually in the same size, but not the same weight rating, and I like them a lot. However, Discount tire tells me the same tire in E load range, (on/off road tread) needs to be rotated and rebalanced frequently or they give problems.
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My opinion is that tires are one of, if not the, most important user maintained safety items on a vehicle. Since the very first vehicle I owned in the 1960s, I have used no other brand than Michelin for replacement tires. The ONLY problems I have had with tires since then have been with other brands that were on a vehicle when I purchased it. That is a very long track record with very many different vehicles. When I think of what can happen when a tire suddenly fails at highway speeds, I personally don't feel it is worth the experiment to try different brands to save a bit of money. As I said, "Just my opinion", and how I approach the subject of tires.

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Good: Firestone TransForce HT
Better: Bridgestone Dueler HT
Best: Michelin LTX
Depends on how many miles you drive and what your budget is-
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Good: Firestone TransForce HT
Better: Bridgestone Dueler HT
Best: Michelin LTX
Depends on how many miles you drive and what your budget is-
M.Hony, You have actual experience with all three of those?
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Yep.
We use the Firestone TransForce on our fleet of 300.
I have the Bridgestone Duelers on my Nissan Pathfinder and Toyota Tundra.
I have had the Michelins on several Chevy vans- the latest one getting 130,000 miles on Michelins.
These are pretty much the only tires I have had experience with in the past 20 years.
The tire stores always try to get me to buy Yokahama or Kuhmo, but the others just look nicer to me.
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Yep.
We use the Firestone TransForce on our fleet of 300.
I have the Bridgestone Duelers on my Nissan Pathfinder and Toyota Tundra.
I have had the Michelins on several Chevy vans- the latest one getting 130,000 miles on Michelins.
These are pretty much the only tires I have had experience with in the past 20 years.
The tire stores always try to get me to buy Yokahama or Kuhmo, but the others just look nicer to me.
And these are all "E" load range tires that would be used on a 3/4 ton truck?

Not meaning to question you incessantly, but it seems neither a Nissan pathfinder nor a Toyota Tundra use "E" load range tires, and I don't know how you can say brand "M" can be "the best" when you've not used all of the brands of tires available for a 3/4 ton truck, hence my asking for folks input from actual users of specific brands.
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No, the Tundra and the Pathfinder do not use load range "E", but our 300 GM and Ford 3/4 ton and 1 ton vans and pickups do.
I just threw in my personal vehicles to show my belief/support of the Bridgestone tires- they have a quiet ride and last long enough-
Firestones, Bridgestones, and Michelins on GM and Ford 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks- vans and pickups
Bridgestones are factory equipment on GM.
Michelins are factory on Fords.
We have a fleet of 300 trucks, GM and Ford, and 50 trailers.
This is how I can state what's best:
It is my opinion and my experience.
My opinion is based on ride quality and how quiet the tires roll on the highway.
My experience is based on getting 130,000 miles on a set of Michelins on a 2007 Chevy Express 2500.
If you don't believe me or trust me you don't have to.
You don't have to buy any of these tires.
Don't make no difference to me.
I supported Cooper tires in an earlier post because they have 2 factories here in Mississippi.
If you don't mean to "question me incessantly", then don't.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone has had some experience with some brand of tire- that's just my experience and opinion- take it or leave-
I'm sure you have some experience and opinions, as well.
I see all brands of tires out there.
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