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Old 01-12-2014, 12:47 PM   #15
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I've run Michelins on our F250 4x4 diesel truck for the last 15 years. I did use some Radial T/As when the stock tires wore out, for the next set I tried the Michelins and have never gone back. Great handling and excellent wear.

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I was pleased my new truck came off of the dealership lot with Michelin tires. That saved me an immediate 1,000 dollar expense to put the Michelin tires on the truck.

I have run Michelins on every road vehicle I have owned for over the last 48 years except the motorcycles. I do not let them get close to the wear bars before a new set goes on. We drive from southern Arizona into the mountains of New Mexico year round, good tread depth equals some traction.

We had a GMC 2500 Denali Suburban come with brand X and as soon as I got the Michelins installed, it handled like a completely different vehicle. The only tire issues I have had is from road debris (nails or screws) generating a flat.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:24 PM   #17
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Just checked the specs on my OE tires at Tirerack.com, and they had 15/32 tread depth when new, and my thinnest tires (the curb side always seem to wear the fastest) have 3/32" left to the wear bars. These are Michelin LTX/AS (by the way, Tirerack says they are being discontinued).

So doing some simple math, I figure the tires are wearing a 32" per 3000 miles, so that would put me at 46,000 miles with the tread wear bars showing. Might get a little more if I rotated them side to side, but that changes the direction of rotation, something I've had trouble doing in the past. I will probably drive the thing another 3000 before the summer, so again, want to change them before summer travel.
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There seems to be a big wear difference between the OEM tire and the same brand ones I put on later in terms of tread life. They do not necessarily have the identical part number.
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There seems to be a big wear difference between the OEM tire and the same brand ones I put on later in terms of tread life. They do not necessarily have the identical part number.
Like I said before, there is a significant difference in tread wear when towing compared to running empty, and this truck is used 98% for towing.

The first time I noticed this was on our first trip to Alaska in '08 when we wore a brand new set of tires to 50% remaining rubber in 10,000 miles, and these were 40K mile rated tires.
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I have a set of Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx tires on my F250 and I'm not happy with the wear. I have only 14,000 miles on them and I'm down to 3/32 tread left.
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I have a set of Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx tires on my F250 and I'm not happy with the wear. I have only 14,000 miles on them and I'm down to 3/32 tread left.
Aren't the S/T Maxx the off-road tread version, and don't they normally get worse tread mileage?
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:14 PM   #22
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Found this schedule for weighing with individual wheel scales:
Weighing Schedule | RV Safety.com and Michelin explains how a platform scale can be used to get individual weights but it looks like it cannot be an elevated scale as you have to put one side on and one side off. Starts at about page 4
https://www.michelinb2b.com/wps/b2bc...re.pdf#page=19

From Switz: "I would suggest that knowing the individual tire loads on the trailer can be important. One may discover that one tire is carrying much more weight then the other three. That discovery can result from a load placement issue to a design in the trailer issue as to the location of a specific heavy item."

Sorta guessing that my slide out qualifies on on that side load thingy.

I wish the OP well on his tire search and my apologies for a slight hijack into some important sidebars.
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Aren't the S/T Maxx the off-road tread version, and don't they normally get worse tread mileage?
Yes, I expected them to be worse on tread wear, but not quite that bad. They have been great off road and since I go off road quite a bit, I really shouldn't complain.
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I have coopers on my expedition that I use for hard farm work. I am very happy with them.
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We use Fiestone Destination A/T. Tire Rack rating very good. F'stone Trans Force ride nice, but with our dodge with Bigfoot camper they tend hydroplane a bit. Www.tirerack.com. Choose a tire review ratings. Good resource
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We use Fiestone Destination A/T. Tire Rack rating very good. F'stone Trans Force ride nice, but with our dodge with Bigfoot camper they tend hydroplane a bit. Www.tirerack.com. Choose a tire review ratings. Good resource
I like Tirerack, and have bought some tires from them, but they don't handle the Coopers, and Discount who's service I like and prefer, doesn't handle some of the brands that Tirerack does.
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The delights of the free tire market!

Last year, I acquired two sets of four scales where each scale can weigh up to 5,000 pounds. The control console for each group of four can produce print outs of the weights at each tire position, each axle and the total of the two axles.

Thus I can put a scale under each trailer and truck tire to see how things are lining up. I can isolate three in one set and put the fourth under a jackstand at the ball and get a tongue weight plus what the axles are carrying using the other set of four.

While they were not cheap, in the long run it is cost effective as the scales are over 50 miles away and making incremental changes get time consuming and fuel expensive.
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Peerless Tire Centers here in Denver carry Coopers
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