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Old 02-16-2010, 05:28 PM   #15
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We switched to a 3/4 ton F250 diesel and I use it as my daily driver as well, the gas milage I get is much improved over my Lincoln Aviator (had the 4.6L V8). As others have said, these trucks aren't the easiest to park, especially at a mall but they provide a lot more confidence while towing.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:05 PM   #16
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Go with a Dodge 5.9. My milage is 20+ empty hiway, 18+ city empty and 14-16 towing a 28'

Last year doing up a 10% grade to 10,000 feet was EASY

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:21 PM   #17
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I think it will be an F-250

So my wife suggested that she liked her "paid for" Tahoe just fine thank you very much, but suggested, to my shock and amazement, that maybe "...you get yourself a truck." How can I pass that up?

So now the search is on for an affordable, used F-250 diesel crew cab...
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:17 PM   #18
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Is it worth considering buying two vehicles - the 3/4-ton tow machine, and something smaller as a daily driver?

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Probably not. The incremental cost of driving the truck (fuel, servicing, additional depreciation) on a per-mile basis is likely to be considerably less than the total cost of any small car. Even a small motorcycle is likely to cost more when all the costs are added up.

I concluded long ago that if we want to minimize our transportation costs, we must be honest with ourselves and buy no more vehicle than we really need.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:24 AM   #19
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We have over 50k miles towing with 3/4 ton truck, our cowboy cadillac, and wouldn't take an Expedition or Suburban for it -- gasoline, generator, cleaning fluids, gear all ride in back of the truck and not a bit of it messes up the really nice cab.

Antennae on truck roof make it not worth it to try parking garages. Walking is really good for us, we always park at the edges of store parking lots. Truck is five years old, over 55k miles, and no dings on the doors. Just amazing how that happens when you don't park near other peoples' cars, eh?

Anyway, lots of our friends use Suburbans or Expeditions with diesel or gas and they love them as well as we do our truck. I'll have to ask them how they manage the generator and gas can, I guess.

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:51 AM   #20
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So my wife suggested that she liked her "paid for" Tahoe just fine thank you very much, but suggested, to my shock and amazement, that maybe "...you get yourself a truck." How can I pass that up?

So now the search is on for an affordable, used F-250 diesel crew cab...
Good choice. I'd recommend something from 2000-2003. Should be able to find a nice clean example with fewer than 150k mi and a rebuilt transmission for $10k or so.
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:51 AM   #21
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We like our 01 diesel excursion. Three rows of seats and plenty of room left for gear. Highway mpg 17-19, towing 10-13. Heard bad things about the 6.0 powerstroke, all good with the 7.3. Ours has 150k know and no problems. Has a great big 44 gal. tank. We tow a 64 overlander. Hope it helps
The bad things are about the early 6.0 powerstrokes. Mine is an 06 and I have had no problems. Regular maint is a must. It is the last year you could almost anything in the tank and it will run. The 07 on will only run on ULSD.
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Old 02-19-2010, 09:19 AM   #22
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Or Maybe the Excursion...

Wife seems to think having the closed off back end will be better than an open pickup...she also likes the third row seat as our Tahoe does not have that feature.

I think we are now on the Excursion hunt. I've got some q's but will start a new thread to address...
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Old 02-19-2010, 09:40 AM   #23
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Well your kinda limited to trucks and the Ford expedition, Which they don't make anymore so you will have to get a used one.

I don't think chevy made a diesel suburban, but you can put a diesel in one... for big $$$

Sounds like you might be stuck with a truck. or a used Expedition...
I think you mean "Excursion". They were discontinued and are available with either diesel or V-10 power house under the hood. The Expedition is still in production. There were a few diesel Expeditions made, IIRC, but that was late '90's and they are rare, but can be found with lots of research.

Chevy made a diesel Suburban up until a few years ago. It was the 2500 and is very much in demand for towing.

The Excursion does ride similar to a 3/4 ton truck and had a little squishiness in the rear end when towing, but if you do some "minor" upgrades to the rear you can get a very stable platform. I don't know if the Suburbans had a solid rear axle or independent suspension, but the Excursion had a solid axle which is a little more durable, but not as comfortable of a ride. If you go with the Excursion and find a good deal on a V-10 gasser, go for it. The towing numbers are virtually the same and reportedly the mileage is a little better under tow.

You might also PM Nilesrob. He had a 2004 Excursion and traded it for a 2007 or 2008 F-250. I have the 4X2 version of the same truck and am very pleased with it.
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Old 02-27-2010, 03:56 AM   #24
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Here's a good thread on the diesel excursion:
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Camping friends are very happy with their E-350 V-10 (they tow a 9000lb SOB)
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Old 02-27-2010, 07:40 AM   #25
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bought a diesel x ltd new in may 2005.have had no problems that were significant.have a bunch of kids younger, older, grandkids,best vehicle for my purpose.i use this as my daily driver and park anywhere a car can park assuming i can back into the spot.when traveling with the trailer in tow it pulls along without much effort.everywhere i travel most people want to know if i would consider selling the truck,which is not an option for me.assuming the body doesnt rot off the frame i intend to drive this truck forever.the kids have named the truck "big earl"and would be very upset if i ever decided to sell.i told them they will have to peel my hands off the steering wheel to get me away from this vehicle.unfortunately there is nothing on the market that can replace this behemoth.good luck in your search.as catsandi pointed out with a diesel maintenance is imperitive.
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Here's a good thread on the diesel excursion:
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Camping friends are very happy with their E-350 V-10 (they tow a 9000lb SOB)
Be careful of the info you get out of that thread.
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Wife seems to think having the closed off back end will be better than an open pickup
This is the main reason we switched from a Crew cab pickup truck with a camper shell to a 2002 Excursion. We were driving in South Dakota a few years back and had to detour some road construction for 10 miles on an unpaved surface. Even though the camper shell was pretty well sealed and I drove less than 10 MPH, we still ended up with an eighth of an inch of dust covering all of our stuff in the pickup bed. What a mess!! At that point I wanted a Suburban or an Excursion. We have know driven 15,000 miles with the diesel Excursion with no problems. I really like the 44 gallon tank. Without the trailer, the Excursion will go almost 900 miles per tank at 70 MPH. With trailer, we can go 500 miles before filling up. And with the 3rd-row seat removed, we have almost a full pickup bed of space for stuff and seating for 5.

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