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Old 11-10-2014, 04:13 PM   #1
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2016 Volvo XC90 T8

Thought I'd start a fresh thread on this vehicle. Final specs are not out yet, but may be introduced in two weeks when it makes its NA debut at the LA Auto Show.

It features a super charged turbo 4 cyl "Drive-E" engine driving the front wheels and a 60-kilowatt electric motor driving the rear.

It can be driven in all electric mode up to 25 miles and does have regenerative braking.

The 2-liter gas engine has 316 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque while the electric motor has 80-hp and 177 pound-feet of torque for a combined 396 horsepower and 472 pound-feet of torque!

They have not published the actual hitch weight limit yet, probably dependent on what class hitch they put on for the NA market, but the Euro specs show a trailering limit (braked) as 2500kg or a little over 5500 lbs.

It looks to have ample carrying capacity of close to 1500 lbs. Other Euro specs can be found here: http://www.volvocars.com/uk/Document...-Pricelist.pdf

I think you could probably tow anything from a Bambi on up to perhaps a 25 footer, depending on the hitch.

The electric only mode may be useful when creeping along in traffic, and the combined AWD mode would certainly be useful in Mud or going up hills. Can't wait to see what the EPA specs are.
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Do not be surprised if Volvo does not allow towing with this edition. It is pretty common practice with EVs. Many of the bits and pieces may be changed from the "regular" version...to the lighter side. Add ultra low rolling resistance tires, etc. and they get knocked out of the towing game for the achievement of more range and fuel economy. That's the target market.
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Yes, they do, they specifically list tow limits on the UK specs for this specific model. Open the linked doc and scroll to the bottom.
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ENGINE D5 AWD T8 Twin Engine
Transmission Auto Auto
Cylinders 4 4
Engine capacity, cc 1969 1969
Max. output ECE, hp/kw/rpm 225/165/4250 320/235/5700
Max. torque ECE, Nm/rpm 470/1750-2500 400/2200-4500
Transmission (no. of gears) 8 8
Start/Stop Yes Yes
Fuel Diesel Petrol
Fuel tank volume, litres (gallons) 71 (15.6) 50 (11.0)
PERFORMANCE
Top speed, mph 137 140
Acceleration 0–60 mph, sec TBA TBA
0–62 mph (0–100 km/h), sec 7.8 6.4
FUEL CONSUMPTION MPG (l/100 KM) 3) 4)
Urban TBA n/a
Extra Urban TBA n/a
Combined 48.7 (5.8) 104.6 (2.7)

WEIGHTS
Min. kerb weight, kg TBA TBA
Running order, kg 2,030 2,350
Max. total weight, kg 2,750 3,010
Max. towing weight braked, kg 2,400 2,500
Max. towing weight unbraked, kg 5) 750 750
Max. payload, kg (dependent on spec.) 700 660
Max. towball weight / roof load, kg TBA / TBA TBA / TBA
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Yes, they do, they specifically list tow limits on the UK specs for this specific model. Open the linked doc and scroll to the bottom.
Oh, I understand, and when it comes over they may allow towing....but...."funny things happen on the way to Rome". Their marketers may have something else in mind when it is "Americanized". Over the pond, they don't have to deal with CAFE or EPA, etc. That could drive changes to the powertrain, etc.

All may be for naught....I just wouldn't assume it'll be exactly as the Euro brochures indicate.
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I'm hoping we eventually get the diesel. Same displacement as the gas 4 cylinder, yet, only 3 mph shy in terms of top speed.

I've never cared for the original XC90 (I driven one with the Yamaha V8, and good friends had a 2005 model with the 5 cylinder turbo), and I'm not fond of SUVs in general, but this new Volvo has definitely attracted my attention. We'll see what it's really like when it's introduced.
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The US specs are out for the T6 (gas engine only) here: Specifications | Specifications and Features | All-new Volvo XC90 | Volvo Models | www.volvocars.com/us

approx 5300 lbs tow weight.

EPA still tbd.
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The US specs are out for the T6 (gas engine only) here: Specifications | Specifications and Features | All-new Volvo XC90 | Volvo Models | www.volvocars.com/us

approx 5300 lbs tow weight.

EPA still tbd.

I found gear ratios for the 8 speed automatic (and final drive) on a dealer's web site and plugged them into a towing spreadsheet that I created. Making some assumptions about aerodynamic drag, I think the XC90 will be a rather strong tow vehicle. The 5300 lb recommendation is conservative, especially in light of the car's near-1700 lb payload capacity.

Wheelbase is long - 118"? and overall length is something like 195". It is a big vehicle, but curb weight is supposed to be only 4400 lbs. This is impressively light.

Food for thought - how will the bottom end of a 2 litre four cylinder stand up to producing something in the range of 300 lbs-ft of torque on a sustained basis? Engine management to control power delivery and operating temperatures is going to be critical, especially with the combined supercharger/turbocharger system that Volvo has developed.

My guess is that it will be fine, but it shows how far engine technology has progressed in the last 30 years.

Fuel economy? I would guess 23 mpg (US) solo at 75 mph. Weight influences city economy, and aero drag is the primary determinant of highway economy. These fancy blown four cylinder engines are more about achieving better government ratings than achieving better real-world economy. In truth, I'd rather have the current 3.0 turbocharged inline six.
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Guess I'm missing something here....are you guys nuts? That's a Volvo wagon, right?? Your thinking of buying a $$$ pricy Volvo wagon with a small turbo charged engine to pull a 5K+ pound AS?? May I ask what your smoking?
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I can't seem to find any info on whether any Volvo model is J2807 compliant???? Anyone else know and can point to a press release, etc?
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Guess I'm missing something here....are you guys nuts? That's a Volvo wagon, right?? Your thinking of buying a $$$ pricy Volvo wagon with a small turbo charged engine to pull a 5K+ pound AS?? May I ask what your smoking?
Yes, it's a station wagon, otherwise known as a SUV. It's Volvo's largest model.

Yes, I am positive that it will ably tow virtually an Airstream, except maybe the 30' unit with the slide because the tongue weight is over 1000 lbs.

And the last thing I smoked was a Costa Rican cigar a couple of months ago. I'm certain that it's not affecting my mental acuity.
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Hi from AZ. . . the wife has a '08 XC90, no turbo, no AWD, and I wouldn't tow any trailer with it. It's not been reliable either. . . just sayin ! Craig
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Hi from AZ. . . the wife has a '08 XC90, no turbo, no AWD, and I wouldn't tow any trailer with it. It's not been reliable either. . . just sayin ! Craig
Interesting. We tow with my wife's 2008 V70 - the same engine and transmission as your XC90, with the same overall gearing (different final drive because the tires are smaller than on your XC90). It's been very good for us.
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Volvo that designed/manufactured/tested the vehicle says it can tow 5300#. What makes you think it can tow any Airstream? Are you a former design engineer in Volvo, and have some inside information we do not have? Until you run J2807 towing tests on an XC90 with a trailer weighing more than 5300#, it can only tow 5300#.
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