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Old 02-07-2016, 11:24 AM   #99
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I have a 2006 f150 with the 4.6 lt engine. It gets the job done for the few times a year that we go camping, but it feels underpowered when towing.

My next truck will be a f250, mainly for the increase of Carrying capacity. Once I load up the f150 with gear and fire wood, I'm close or over my weight limit.

Gas or Diesel? I'm leaning to the gas 6.2. For me it will be my daily driver. The extra 10k extra cost at the purchase and maintenance cost just don't seem to be worth it. It would take years to make up the cost difference if fuel.

So F150 vs F250? Totally go with the F250.
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Old 02-07-2016, 05:45 PM   #100
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Buy a new truck.
Pay $600 a month for 5 years.
Pay it off.
Drive it 10-15 more years with no note
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$600 a month every month forever?
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If you drive 15k per year you have 75,000 miles when make that final payment.In 10 years 225,000 and in 15years 300,000 miles.How much have you spent during this time in replacement and repair? Your trade value is virtually nothing and how much will that new vehicle in 10-15 years ?Who knows.Now your trade is worth nothing your projected trade difference is approaching $70,000+
You have drove a worn out vehicle into the ground for what reason?

By the way $600 per month does not get you a $70k MSRP tow vehicle today unless you put 50% down and by the way there is no such thing as forever.
Contrary to popular belief it is also normally cheaper to drive a loaded with options vehicle than it is to drive the basic one,but I will save that for another time.
There is also no such thing as a free ride.


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Old 02-07-2016, 06:32 PM   #101
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I don't drive my toe vehicle 15,000 miles per year.
Maybe 4,500 miles per year.
May 8 year old truck that has been paid for 3 years has 51,000 miles.
I may never need another truck in my lifetime.
My daily driver is 17 years old and was paid off 11 years ago and has 118,000 miles.
I bought them both used 1 year old.
I saved $8,000 on the '99 compared to new MSRP.
I saved $12,000 on the '07 compared to new MSRP.
I am convinced my formula works well for me and my family budget.
Note was basically $500 on the '99 and $600 on the '07.
My '06 Harly has just shy of 18,000 miles and was paid off in '08.
I am making payments now on a '14 Avalon that we bought new. It has 7,500 miles.
Been keeping cars average of 15 years, but they seem to be lasting longer with less maintenance.
May try for 30 or more years.
Getting close on the daily driver.


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Old 02-07-2016, 06:34 PM   #102
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For me, it's still cheaper to keep her.
My '99 has $13 per month insurance and a $39 tag.
Last year I changed the oil, rotated the tires, and bought a battery.
$0 in maintenance since then.
2,000 miles to go before another oil change.
Might be August before I drive 2,000 miles.


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Old 02-07-2016, 06:35 PM   #103
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Old 02-07-2016, 07:02 PM   #104
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My 08 Silverado has about 110,000 miles, I bought it new for just a touch over 20K, a plain regular cab 4WD.

Over the course of ownership I have changed tires a few times, brakes once, a battery twice, and a fuel pump once. (The pump failed because of the plug connector caused by corrosion from using E85)

In the near eight years I have owned the truck I have not spent $1,000 in repairs, (not including tires of course)

My 04 Tahoe has been a very similar experience at 225K miles.

Alternator, starter, a few batteries, two changes of brakes, a water pump,,,, and I think that is about it besides the 4.8 I changed for a 5.3 to make it pull the trailer a little stronger.

I doubt I have spent 3K in repairs on this one including the engine swap.

I have always been fortunate with my gas powered Chevrolets.

I don't know, but my total cost of ownership to date for my 08 might not be much more than the depreciation on a new loaded truck the instant it is driven off the dealers lot.

I will say that I do my own repairs, this saves me cash, but in reality, all of my repairs apart from the engine swap have been simple, easy and quick to do sitting in the driveway.


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Old 02-07-2016, 07:32 PM   #105
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Since you have not had enough suggestions, I would just say I have the F-150 with EcoBoost, all the trailering options, platinum, and love it. Back up camera is a wonderful option for hookup. Just bought my granddaughter the same setup in a new pickup for her to pull her AS-FC 20. While I have not towed the larger AS trailers, I think my TV would handle any of them and a new one should handle even more. Good luck and happy camping. Probably the most comfortable vehicle I have ever driven on the road.
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Old 02-08-2016, 08:59 AM   #106
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Since you have not had enough suggestions, I would just say I have the F-150 with EcoBoost, all the trailering options, platinum, and love it. Back up camera is a wonderful option for hookup. Just bought my granddaughter the same setup in a new pickup for her to pull her AS-FC 20. While I have not towed the larger AS trailers, I think my TV would handle any of them and a new one should handle even more. Good luck and happy camping. Probably the most comfortable vehicle I have ever driven on the road.
I have been towing our 30' International with our F-150 identical to yours, for three years. Mostly out west throughout the Rockies hitting every pass without any problems. You will be very happy with yours I guarantee it.
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The biggest downside of the new Ford turbo's, is just that, many more moving parts and not a lot of history on longevity. The 5.0 is a well designed engine with lots of history of a very capable engine and many examples of long term dependability. Sometimes simplicity over comes technology.
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Thats why they make more than one option.
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Hi.... I went to the Barrett Jackson auction in Scottsdale and had a long conversation with a Ford rep who was showing their 2016 F150. I told him I have a 2014 F150 Ecoboost with tow package and was towing my 25f FC with it. I asked him if I needed to be concerned over power, overheating, capacity, etc and he told me with that engine, it will pull great up and down mountains without problems. Now maybe some of this was sales talk but I got into details with him and he said that we may use a little more in gas over the 5L engine while going up hills but overall they equal out. His recommendation was to stay with the Ecoboost 6. He did say the key was the greater tow capacity with the tow package. That makes this truck a beast for towing (his words).

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Hi.... I went to the Barrett Jackson auction in Scottsdale and had a long conversation with a Ford rep who was showing their 2016 F150. I told him I have a 2014 F150 Ecoboost with tow package and was towing my 25f FC with it. I asked him if I needed to be concerned over power, overheating, capacity, etc and he told me with that engine, it will pull great up and down mountains without problems. Now maybe some of this was sales talk but I got into details with him and he said that we may use a little more in gas over the 5L engine while going up hills but overall they equal out. His recommendation was to stay with the Ecoboost 6. He did say the key was the greater tow capacity with the tow package. That makes this truck a beast for towing (his words).

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Our 2012 F150 Echoboost Platinum King Cab, 4X4 , 78K miles, primarily towing our 25' FC; with 430 Lbs torque...pulls great, rides great, and good mileage when not towing...17-22 mpg and 10-11 overall when towing. Looking at the other options and opinions, guess this one works for now. Did see the new Nissan today with Cummings, but could not get a price, nor did the sales guy know much...said they sold the first 2 as soon as they arrived, and the one they had was a "loaner" from the rep....no knowledge of MPG or price, nor when they would get more...mildly curious. I would like to stay in the 1/2 ton range if possible...think 3/4 ton is great with larger trailer, but overkill for 25 or 27 model....imho.
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as someone said already, 3.5l ecoboost is the best engin in my opinion. you will get better mpg when not towing and when towing...you will have a lot of power and torque.


as for towing ability, it s a personal choice. Not everyone is comfortable towing with the same vehicle. I personally think the F150 can tow any airstream in the line-up without any issue. But some people feel like they need a heavy-duty to tow at 23 or 25 etc.[/QUOTE

Ford says that max towing, (with package) F-150, EcoBoost, 3.55 Final Drive Ratio, is 12,200 lbs.
My new 30' Flying Cloud is listed at 8800 lbs GROSS. WT.
shouldn't be a problem!
I have the F-150 EB heavy tow 3.79 axle etc. Towing a 30' International rated at '-8800 lbs. I have yet to get above 7400 lbs loaded for a trip including a full water tank. Most of the time I keep 20 gals of water in tank and am at 6,800 lbs. Well under the gross WT. We are in the Rockies every summer. I have yet to worry about going up or coming down a steep pass.
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The biggest downside of the new Ford turbo's, is just that, many more moving parts and not a lot of history on longevity. The 5.0 is a well designed engine with lots of history of a very capable engine and many examples of long term dependability. Sometimes simplicity over comes technology.
The 3.5 Ecoboost was in production before the 5.0 Coyote V8 came out. This is not the traditional 5.0 Ford V8 that does have a lot more history. The Coyote is also different than the 4.6/5.4/6.8 engines. I think the 5.0 V8 is fine for those who want one, but to me choosing to avoid direct injection and turbocharging is a little like opting for a carburetor, points, and a distributor.

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