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Old 08-08-2016, 09:10 PM   #183
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Fine job! All I know is all of the trucks in the pool are the same. F150 cc with the 5.0 and the mileage is about the same. Must be lead foot syndrome from the team. Except for me of course........
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:58 PM   #184
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Earlier this year I bought a 2016 F150 3.5 EB with max tow package (12,100 trailer GVWR max, 1,200 tongue max, 1500 payload max). Within the next few years I plan to purchase a new Airstream. We really prefer the 30ft Classic (7365 lbs base, 10,000 lbs GVWR). Will this truck comfortably tow the classic? It has electronic trailer brake control and anti sway tech, plus I'd have a good anti sway bar.

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Old 08-14-2016, 03:18 PM   #185
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:25 PM   #186
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It'll "do" it, but you'd be happier with a 3/4-ton truck.


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Old 08-15-2016, 06:00 AM   #187
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2016 Ford F150 vs F250

PaulnGina: "It'll "do" it, but you'd be happier with a 3/4-ton truck."

That's kind of what I suspected after reading the posts, but most were referencing slightly shorter and/or lighter trailers so I wasn't sure. I don't have any experience with diesel or a heavier truck to compare to so maybe my ignorance will be bliss. I also use this truck for my daily commute and love the smooth ride.

Sounds like I can easily begin with this truck but if not satisfied with the tow experience with a 30ft Classic then I might trade in for a F250 if Ford has improved the non-tow experience by then. Or maybe just get an inexpensive (used) F250 dedicated for towing.

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Old 08-15-2016, 06:54 AM   #188
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Huh? My 2015 F150 2WD with the 5.0 engine gets 18 in town and 24 highway.
My 2012 4wd gets 15-18 around town and 20-21 highway. also between 11 and 13 towing my old 25 and current 30.

The only way i see 13.5 unloaded is with a lot of idling.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:50 AM   #189
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PaulnGina: "It'll "do" it, but you'd be happier with a 3/4-ton truck."

That's kind of what I suspected after reading the posts, but most were referencing slightly shorter and/or lighter trailers so I wasn't sure. I don't have any experience with diesel or a heavier truck to compare to so maybe my ignorance will be bliss. I also use this truck for my daily commute and love the smooth ride.

Sounds like I can easily begin with this truck but if not satisfied with the tow experience with a 30ft Classic then I might trade in for a F250 if Ford has improved the non-tow experience by then. Or maybe just get an inexpensive (used) F250 dedicated for towing.

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I love my 2012 F150 3.5 EB, 4X4, Platinum, short bed, supercrew, for all around use, including mileage similar to others reporting on this thread. The ride for commuting and all around use pulling our 25' AS is great. Only real issues we have had were pulling up long grade's in heat over 100 degrees (overheat), and breaking going down windy steep grades- brakes heated. That being said, I don't have experience with the 30' AS and I would likely do same as you; try for a while and see how you feel. The new 2017 F250 may be the right answer for that size AS and you can get a diesel or 6.2 gas. Several articles on the cab being updated and ride on the new F250 being much improved to be more like the F150. Like you, seems there are several of "us" waiting to see/drive both the F250 and F150 for 2017 and get owner feedback before moving to a new rig. Good luck with your new AS...
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If your rated payload is 1500 lbs. and your trailer's tongue weight is 1100 lbs. (a realistic number, btw) . . . Well, you do the math and see if adding up the people dogs and stuff you're carrying weigh 400 lbs. or less.
We've towed an FC 27 all over the west for 30,000 miles with a GMC 1/2 ton and been quite happy, but it's rated payload is 1940 lbs. The GVWR of our Airstream is 7600 lbs. If I were towing a 10,000 GVWR 30-footer on the same route, I'd go for a 3/4 ton, probably diesel. The F250 and Ram 2500 with the 6.4 liter gas engine feel pretty strong, but fuel economy is atrocious. A 3/4 ton pickup weighs between 1,000 and 1,500 lbs. more than its 1/2 ton brother, which affects fuel economy. If you "do the math," it's not the lower operating cost of using diesel fuel (which is offset by the higher purchase price of Diesel engine), it's that your diesel will have greater range between fill-ups and offers the possibility of safe add-on fuel tanks, versus unsafe practices like carrying a couple of 5-gallon Jerry cans of f gasoline in the bed to extend range.
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Old 08-24-2016, 05:57 AM   #191
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Just looked at an Ford F150 XLT extended cab with 5 L engine and the comparable F250 with 6.2 L engine. F150 had a cargo capacity of 2000 lbs, F250 2900. What do you think about the capabilities of the F150 for towing a 25 or 27' AS? It has the payload capacity but what about the 5 L engine? The attractive part of the F150 would be its gas mileage for daily driving. Coincidentally sticker price if around 44,000 for each.
The F150 with the 5 litre is perfect for your need if you do not need the larger payload. Avoid the 3.6 litre turbo. It is not made for towing. Those who are trailering a lot replace the turbos regularly and spend more fuel than the 5 litre.
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Old 08-24-2016, 09:02 AM   #192
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The F150 with the 5 litre is perfect for your need if you do not need the larger payload. Avoid the 3.6 litre turbo. It is not made for towing. Those who are trailering a lot replace the turbos regularly and spend more fuel than the 5 litre.
That is interesting statement about towing with 3.5 L twin turbo.
I know of no one that has replaced a turbo on the 3.5 including me 41,000 miles and a very good towing motor !
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The F150 with the 5 litre is perfect for your need if you do not need the larger payload. Avoid the 3.6 litre turbo. It is not made for towing. Those who are trailering a lot replace the turbos regularly and spend more fuel than the 5 litre.
It's not hard to avoid the "3.6 turbo" since that engine doesn't exist in a Ford pickup. As for the 3.5 twin-turbo Ecoboost, I'd like to see actual numbers on all these people who supposedly replace the turbos regularly, none of the Airstreamers I know with 3.5 Ecoboost F150s are having any turbo problems, and I follow F150 forums and haven't seen many such reports there either.
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Don't know about the EcoBoost turbos, but GM Duramax turbos are generally rebuilt or replaced when the truck is 10 years or more old and has 200,000-300,000 miles.


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Old 08-25-2016, 06:13 AM   #195
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The ludicrous whinging about the "beer can" aluminum for the new F150 is just so much unfounded FUD. Look at similar photos of modern steel-bodied vehicles from similar crashes and you'll see that modern vehicles are designed to crumple because replacing body panels (or entire vehicles) is MUCH cheaper than paying hospital bills.

There's likely to be a real difference in the repair costs from medium, repairable collisions because not every body shop is prepared to work on aluminum, but aluminum body panels are hardly a new thing.
The F150 has a 5 star crash rating. It tested superior to several steel-bodied half ton trucks for safety.
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It's not hard to avoid the "3.6 turbo" since that engine doesn't exist in a Ford pickup. As for the 3.5 twin-turbo Ecoboost, I'd like to see actual numbers on all these people who supposedly replace the turbos regularly, none of the Airstreamers I know with 3.5 Ecoboost F150s are having any turbo problems, and I follow F150 forums and haven't seen many such reports there either.

It's rare enough that when I suffered a turbo failure on my 2013 F150 3.5, Ford asked if they could buy the vehicle back so as to tear it fully down for analysis. If it were anything of a routine condition, I'd think their interest in a single incident would not be as pronounced.

The only real reason I am in a 250 today is the new crew cab design on the f150 is too short of a ceiling for me to fit into; else I'd be in another ecoboost without much question.



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