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Old 03-11-2016, 12:00 PM   #155
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For overheating experience, going up the grade from Riverside to Las Vegas in 100+ degree temps last 3 years at 55-60 mph; no power issues, BUT, temp shot up a couple times into red zone, so immediately moved to "truck" slow lane and backed down to 40-45, shut down air conditioner.

Braking- I experienced similar issues as others stated; EB downshifted automatically on steep grade 6-7% to 2nd gear, and I slowed to 15-20 using trailer break switch on dash to help, but I still had front breaks overheat a few times. Engine breaking was not noticeably helpful. The area I am talking about is from Julian CA to Borrego Springs with several turns, but it was not hot out...just more than the EB can handle with my 25', I feel. I love the truck, don't get me wrong. In some areas of the country, I am sure there are no issues. Lots of torque and great ride.
I'm wondering if you have your trailer brakes adjusted correctly. I've pulled my FC 27 over the same route and the full length of the PCH and have never had an issue with overheating brakes. Granted, the larger 6.2 engine in my 2015 Sierra may provide more engine braking than the 3.5 engine in the Ford, but I can't believe that accounts for our different experiences (or that the Ford's brakes are so inferior, if at all). Iv
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:11 AM   #156
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Granted, the larger 6.2 engine in my 2015 Sierra may provide more engine braking than the 3.5 engine in the Ford
I think this is the answer. If so it's a downfall of the ecoboost.

I have the 5.0 now but will be looking at a new truck soon. The ecoboost is appealing except for this.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:37 AM   #157
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:15 AM   #158
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I'm wondering if you have your trailer brakes adjusted correctly. I've pulled my FC 27 over the same route and the full length of the PCH and have never had an issue with overheating brakes. Granted, the larger 6.2 engine in my 2015 Sierra may provide more engine braking than the 3.5 engine in the Ford, but I can't believe that accounts for our different experiences (or that the Ford's brakes are so inferior, if at all). Iv
I will double check the adjustment on the breaks next trip. I had it a bit too tight last summer, and it would lock up easily, so I backed off a little. I will re-calibrate and see if that helps. Didn't like the soot on my wheels after the last trip for sure. As for 6.2 GM, the other attraction is the 8speed vs the 6 speed on my Ford. I did like the shifting response when I test drove recently on the freeway. It was pretty responsive up/down as I accelerated and decelerated in tow mode. I was not pulling anything, however. Think I would still give a good look at the F150 EB "if/when" they deliver the 8 or 10 speed gearbox being "rumored" last 4 years!
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:08 AM   #159
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On my 2015 Int 27fb, the brakes will not lock up. I can pull the emergency pin on the hitch and drive off in my truck with the trailer in tow in 2wd. The dealer said that this is normal. I will be headed to JC to have it checked out this summer. On my 2011 25fb, they would lock up. Does anyone know why this was changed on the 2015 styles.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:47 AM   #160
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On my 2015 Int 27fb, the brakes will not lock up. I can pull the emergency pin on the hitch and drive off in my truck with the trailer in tow in 2wd. The dealer said that this is normal. I will be headed to JC to have it checked out this summer. On my 2011 25fb, they would lock up. Does anyone know why this was changed on the 2015 styles.

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They are self adjusting, the dealer adjusted them and then told me not to apply the brake when backing or it would go back to what it was. Well you know where it is today.
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I was under the impression that the 2015 wide body trailers have self adjusting drum brakes. The 23D seems to be an Airstream loss leader where cost cutting is evident everywhere. We are converting to auto adjust 10" drum brakes along with complete sets of new Timken wheel bearings in May.

Andy at CanAm adjusted the brake settings on the Tekonsha RF brake control system and there is plenty of stopping power
and can lock the 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires mounted on the SenDel T03-56545T wheels. This system gets the brake power from their black box that has the trailer umbilical cord plug into it while it plugs into the 2007 Mercedes ML320,CDI. The brake power is direct from the trailer battery as no brake signal or power comes from the tow vehicle wiring as the wiring was not properly factory installed in the first three or four months of the 2007 model year production..
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Our Bambi will not lock up brakes on pavement for the most part. If the roads are wet or sandy it can be coaxed to do so but otherwise no way!
Just for the record, even after I found that rust had allowed grease to leak past the seals and Dexter sent me all new braking parts, including drums, it still didn't lock wheels. When you see how the brakes work, it is understandable.
I'm sure that a disc brake equipped Airstream is another story altogether...
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My trip yesterday to look at dealer inventory presented two choices for 3.5 ecoboost with reasonable payload in an xlt with the 302a option package. A super cab with 6.5' bed and 2010 lbs cargo capacity but with the standard 23 gal fuel tank. Or a super crew with 5.5' bed but 36 gallon tank but less cargo capacity at 1790 lbs. Since this is a daily driver we already decided not to jump up to the f250. And evidently at this point time Ford is not taking orders on the xlt super crew with HD payload package, but will take an order on the super cab with 8' bed, but we'd rather not have that longer wheelbase, or be limited to the 301a option package. Seems there are always trade-offs, but realistically I think we can make either of the in stock options work with our goal of getting a FC 27FB.
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Get the Super Crew with bigger fuel tank. 1,700# payload is still good.


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I'm wondering if you have your trailer brakes adjusted correctly. I've pulled my FC 27 over the same route and the full length of the PCH and have never had an issue with overheating brakes. Granted, the larger 6.2 engine in my 2015 Sierra may provide more engine braking than the 3.5 engine in the Ford, but I can't believe that accounts for our different experiences (or that the Ford's brakes are so inferior, if at all). Iv
I have driven my 2012 EcoBoost over three years pulling our 30' International.
Every Summer we are driving through the Rockies. My wife loves Colorado. Never had a performance issue with the truck, uphill or downhill. I don't care what you drive descending down a steep grade one has to be measured and careful. Will a F-250 Diesel give you more braking power, yes it will, however for those few hours a season that I need to be patient going down hill with the F-150 I can not justify the additional cost of initial purchase and the additional operating cost, not to mention the stiffer ride. As I posted previously, a F-350 will give you even more braking power, and pulling your trailer, any size, with a Volvo Semi tractor you can go down hill 80 mph. Whatever floats your boat.
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same feeling here. I live in the Canadian roockies and we have some of the biggest/pass in north America.

My F150 as never had a issue with braking on those but when I pull my airstream, I m in vacation and not in a hurry, I have no issue staying in the slow lane, using engine braking to not let the speed go up and feather the brake of the trailer to slow down the total rig....I rarely have to use the truck brake at all. I also feel like I m often following the same pace as the commercial 18 wheelers.....slow and relax in those passes!

If I was in a rush and wanted to keep up with cars traffic...yep, I m sure braking would become a issue.
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I found a great video review comparing pickup trucks featuring the Ford F-150 on You Tube titled

2015 Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost Platinum 4x4 Pickup Truck Review in 4K!

The guy does a really good job going through features and capabilities. The payload is really the big difference between truck class but see below. At one point (5:39), he compares towing and payload to competition and 3/4 ton trucks:

1/2 ton limits 2015 (max equipped)
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3300# Ford
2120# GM
1910# RAM
3/4 ton payload (competition)
RAM 2500 3970#
Silverado 2500 3760#

I also finished watching the mountain Gauntlet run videos and some interesting data was shared regarding braking on the different models. One of the best self- braking (holding to speed) was the 2.7 Eco- go figure. The worst was the GM 6.2 8spd.-12 times the brakes had to be used to slow the tow down to speed limit.
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