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Old 07-26-2015, 10:35 AM   #15
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As far as I can tell, the original poster has not commented on any of the responses. Cutd Cottage: Are you still following and has this info answered your questions?
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:45 AM   #16
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I'm 100% positive at this point most folks towing larger Airstreams with Toyota Tundras are EXCEEDING the vehicles rated payload. Short of being anorexic, single, etc.. I don't see any other answer.

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There is another answer... vintage.

Our restored 26' 1959 Overlander tongue weight varies from 300 to 540 lbs, depending on propane and water load. With a fully packed trailer weight of about 4500 lbs, it tows like it's not even there.

We love our new Tundra. Average mpg for our first towing trip was just shy of 13 mpg.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:14 AM   #17
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I think that you also have to consider we're dealing with car companies and they don't all play by the same rules. The SAE towing standard J2807 testing (for pickups of less than 13,000 lb. cargo capacity) was agreed to by all of the manufacturers in 2009, but only Toyota followed through and complies with the testing. As a result, Toyota dropped the towing capacity on some of their vehicles. The others all set their own standards and tests and advertise their towing capacity based on these self-set standards.

So we really aren't comparing apples to apples.

This is a very interesting article from 2013 when it was all supposed to take effect.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-isnt-standard
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:35 PM   #18
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Here are my experiences towing with this truck Toyota 2104 Tundra
I pull a 2014 FC 28, my truck left the factory with a useful load of 1303lbs
My trailer tounge is 1164 loaded with a WD hitch that means "about"
400 added to front axel of truck about 400 to rear axel of truck and 400 shifted to trailer axels. 1303-800 leaves 503 left useful load on truck. Now not telling wife weight 503-350 leaves 153
No mater how I do it I can't seem to put less then 153 lbs of "Stuff" in the back of my truck.
These are my numbers my truck and my trailer and my desire to stay at or below Toyota Manf. Suggested max load.
I moved up to a F250 pure choice
Good luck on how you choice to go
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:10 AM   #19
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I think that you also have to consider we're dealing with car companies and they don't all play by the same rules. The SAE towing standard J2807 testing (for pickups of less than 13,000 lb. cargo capacity) was agreed to by all of the manufacturers in 2009, but only Toyota followed through and complies with the testing. As a result, Toyota dropped the towing capacity on some of their vehicles. The others all set their own standards and tests and advertise their towing capacity based on these self-set standards.

So we really aren't comparing apples to apples.

This is a very interesting article from 2013 when it was all supposed to take effect.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-isnt-standard

Excellent post. I've read this elsewhere but not sure on details. If so, it would explain why payload on new Tundra trucks is so poor, yet many folks with Tundras are towing good sized campers with great success. Still, for new folk like me, it's a rabbit hole.


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Old 07-27-2015, 10:05 AM   #20
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5 years towing first a 28' and now a 30' with my Tundra CrewMax.
I'm happy.
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:24 PM   #21
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As I stated in my post my problem was never with the truck's ability to tow. The 5.7 is a brute and did a good job of towing my 28 foot trailer.
My problem was always with the ability to comply with the Mfg. stated load of 1303 lbs. Please remember the 28' has one of the highest tongue weights and in most cases its higher then listed on front of trailer when loaded.
I was never able to keep the back of my truck empty always needed room for all the camping items carried by many of us.
After moving up to the bigger truck F250 diesel I am much more confortable with it's load capacity. I am also able to get Slightly better milage and the diesel has more reserve power then any truck I have had. Although Ford is very found of these truck and prices them accordingly.
It seems to me this is about "What makes each of us comfortable".
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:42 PM   #22
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I would think a 2015 Tundra would have more payload and towing capacity than a 2015 Yukon, but I don't know that for a fact.


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Old 08-09-2015, 12:19 PM   #23
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Gonna throw my two cents in here: I just came out of a situation where I could have been killed, and the trailer (not an AS) was destroyed. Truck was totalled. I was pulling an R-Poc 81' trailer with a Toyota FJ Cruiser w/towing package. All weights were within specs, although not by much. On a downhill run while slowing gradually an 18 wheeler passed me way too fast and way too close! I found myself in ditch on the side of the road pointed back the other way. No I did not have a Hensley hitch.

I have since done a LOT of research and experimentation and may be a wee bit paranoid, so take this with that in mind. I now own a Silverado 2500 Duramax (diesel) 4WD Crew Cab and use it to pull a 27' AS Eddie Bauer. It cruises along at 65 on cruise control up some pretty amazing hills without a downshift (in trailering mode). I am using an Equalizer hitch, and not a sign of sway comes my way. Through off and on traffic delays and construction areas I averaged just over 12mpg.

I arrived at my decision after not only researching the heck out of the issue, but talking with folks that routinely pull trailers of a similar size and weight all over the country. They were unanimous in strongly recommending a 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 truck. Several had owned 1/2 ton pickups and traded them in. At least two of them had previously had Tundras, but each told me about one-time experiences that scared them silly and caused them to trade in their Tundras. Most seemed to prefer Chevy trucks and the Duramax diesel.

I have previously pulled a similar size and weight boat and trailer using a Ford 1500 with the trailer package. If you had asked me while I was doing that if I was happy, I would have definitely said, "Yes!"

The consistent rule I picked up from the professionals was that the truck tow capacity should be approximately twice the trailer weight. That leaves plenty of room for luggage, equipment, people, etc. loaded in the truck, and some maneuver room when things start going to pieces on the highway.

Prior to the purchase, I almost bought the Tundra to pull my AS. I will testify readily that I am more than pleased with the decision I made. It meant stretching out the payments to six years, but the other thing I noticed was the resale values on aging diesel 4x4 3/4 ton trucks versus the gas 1/2 tons of any category. The difference was quite notable.

Perhaps because of the near-death experience, I am today a firm believer in not trying to put a trailer back there that is at or near the towing capacity of the truck.
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:15 PM   #24
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You have chosen well. Toy may have a little more than you need, but it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
That being said, the Tundra, although not a 3/4 ton diesel, is a far better tow vehicle than an FJ Cruiser. I bought the Tundra to overcome the limitations of my Nissan Pathfinder, which I still own, but limit towing with it to a 5x10 3,500# GVW utility trailer.
You bought your Silverado Duramax/Allison to overcome the limitations of my Tundra.
The Silverado is awesome, but I am true blue, dyed in the wool Toyota till I die. If I had to buy another truck today, it would be another Tundra.
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:15 PM   #25
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6' bed or 8' bed ?

hey everyone, I've been looking for a tundra for a while and finally found one on CL, jeez .. seems like every owner has an inflated opinion of what these trucks are worth! Trouble is, the 4wd are rare and don't come up very often.
this guy is willing to "settle" for about $1300.00 more than what i believe it really worth on kbb. ... anyways my question is .. this is a long bed, wondering if I'd regret over a shorter bed? any insights from owners would be most appreciated.
thinking maybe too long as would be pulling at 31' trailer , hows the turning circle compared with shorter bed? and what about parking !!

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Old 08-10-2015, 06:31 PM   #26
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The long bed could be handy, but payload limits how much you will really put in there-


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Old 09-27-2015, 09:12 AM   #27
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We just got an EB 27 Getting a vehicle to tow it as had like concerns about The Tundra though I love it. We are Looking at a Silverado 1500 with Max trailering package. 6.2 L 8 speed. Reading this thread I am now concerned about this being enough. Or should we go to the 2500? We have Three Golden retrievers and my wife and I #350. We plan on couple of generators ,kayaks and bikes.So it seems we will get over our max to keep it safe.After all its about control and stopping.Alot of these engines will pull the loads.
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Old 09-27-2015, 09:57 AM   #28
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We just got an EB 27 Getting a vehicle to tow it as had like concerns about The Tundra though I love it. We are Looking at a Silverado 1500 with Max trailering package. 6.2 L 8 speed. Reading this thread I am now concerned about this being enough. Or should we go to the 2500? We have Three Golden retrievers and my wife and I #350. We plan on couple of generators ,kayaks and bikes.So it seems we will get over our max to keep it safe.After all its about control and stopping.Alot of these engines will pull the loads.Do you think thats ok or should we move up?
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