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02-26-2015, 04:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,570
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Amen.
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02-26-2015, 05:00 AM
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#42
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skater
The fact is that any of the big 3 diesels will happily tow any Airstream you care to hook up to it. So it really comes down to brand preference, features, design, etc.
We've pretty much sworn off GM after having two GM cars develop transmission issues before hitting 80,000 miles, and both cars were well taken care of. Nothing I hate more than transmission problems. We didn't even consider GM for our truck because of it, and we didn't consider them when we were replacing the second car.
For Ford, we had the infamous 6.0L and, despite searching, I somehow missed all of the issues with that engine (actually, I misunderstood them to have been fixed in the later years of that engine). The thing was killing us; we were putting thousands into repairs each year, with more on the way (4 more injectors, for example). Not all of that was engine issues, but the coolant thing was an ongoing problem. I loved and hated that truck. The final straw was discovering transmission fluid on the ground - so either a tranny fluid leak or a power steering fluid leak. More $$$, and it would still be blowing out coolant under load.
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2 GM trannys gone bad at 80k and owning a good 6.0, your meant for ford.
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02-26-2015, 05:41 AM
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#43
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
2 GM trannys gone bad at 80k and owning a good 6.0, your meant for ford.
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I don't think you read it correctly - we had plenty of issues with that Ford, including the usual problem of it blowing out coolant under load, which is repairable but at great cost. I don't miss it one bit. A friend in the WBCCI has one, too, and I told him our truck would get ideas on how to break down next from his.
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1995 Airstream Classic 30' Excella 1000
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab with Cummins 6.7L Diesel
Sold but not forgotten: 1991 Airstream B190
Sold: 2006 F-250 6.0L Powerstroke Supercab
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02-28-2015, 07:01 PM
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#44
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Currently Looking...
Marco Island
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
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To My Diesel Compatriots:
It is not my intent to emasculate HOWEVER...
Just came across this 5 Star Rating for the Ford F-250 Diesel from Car & Driver magazine especially touting its Power Stroke producing 440 horsepower and 860 lb-ft of hairy-chested torque... It goes on to say... "Honestly, the Ford delivers more muscle than almost any user will ever need, but HD-truck output figures, like rust, never sleep. A button to the right of the steering wheel activates the exhaust brake to help maintain speed on downhill sections"
Ford F-250 Super Duty Reviews - Ford F-250 Super Duty Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver
Just got back from a 450 mile trip and here's the mpg we were averaging:
Oh and by the way NO BAILOUT!
The Diesel Diva - AKA 911Patriot
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02-28-2015, 07:49 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Went from a long line of Ford trucks to a single Ram CTD ... and now a Duramax ... need I say more. Just one person's (well, make that two with DW) opinion. YMMV
21.2 mpg on a diesel...come on now diva ... ahemmmmmm ! Had to be the gas F150 in your profile; we are talking about diesels here.
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2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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02-28-2015, 07:57 PM
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#46
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 19,977
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“If your happy with what you're using......it's adequate.
If others are unhappy with what you're using......it's not.”
RLC
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02-28-2015, 10:34 PM
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#47
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Currently Looking...
Marco Island
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
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21.2 mpg on a diesel...come on now diva ... ahemmmmmm ! Had to be the gas F150 in your profile; we are talking about diesels here.<-- Nope, I took that picture at a stop light tonight while driving the F-250 Diesel (not towing anything)
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03-01-2015, 12:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
Went from a long line of Ford trucks to a single Ram CTD ... and now a Duramax ... need I say more. Just one person's (well, make that two with DW) opinion. YMMV
21.2 mpg on a diesel...come on now diva ... ahemmmmmm ! Had to be the gas F150 in your profile; we are talking about diesels here.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 911Patriot
21.2 mpg on a diesel...come on now diva ... ahemmmmmm ! Had to be the gas F150 in your profile; we are talking about diesels here.<-- Nope, I took that picture at a stop light tonight while driving the F-250 Diesel (not towing anything)
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HI, I have to admit that this cluster looks a lot like the one in my F-150, but I don't have a turbo boost gauge and mine doesn't have a red line of 4,000 RPM. Actually my F-150 doesn't have a red line marking at all. This smells like a diesel to me!
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03-01-2015, 04:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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My friends 2012 ford 6.7 is lucky to get 10 when towing his 28' fifthwheel......
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03-01-2015, 09:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Are the mileage gauges that accurate. What is the mpg when odometer mileage is divided bt gallons pumped?
Kelvin
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03-01-2015, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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A learned friend of mine once told me, "men will lie about sex and fuel mileage".
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03-01-2015, 11:09 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Currently Looking...
Marco Island
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
A learned friend of mine once told me, "men will lie about sex and fuel mileage".
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Perhaps Steve but I'm a woman touting this mileage. My husband couldn't believe it either but alas there it was...
Could there be something to the way a woman drives a diesel? We may have to factor that into the mileage mix!
I'll post a daytime picture of the dashboard to assure you it is on our 2015 F-250 Power Stroke Super Duty Diesel. BTW we get a ghastly (gas-tly ) 11-13 mpg around town.
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03-01-2015, 11:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
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You may be on to something, 911Patriot - when my wife drives either the car or the diesel truck, the mileage improves! She has a gift!
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03-01-2015, 11:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 911Patriot
Perhaps Steve but I'm a woman touting this mileage. My husband couldn't believe it either but alas there it was...
Could there be something to the way a woman drives a diesel? We may have to factor that into the mileage mix!
I'll post a daytime picture of the dashboard to assure you it is on our 2015 F-250 Power Stroke Super Duty Diesel. BTW we get a ghastly (gas-tly ) 11-13 mpg around town.
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My point, and I guess I should have spelled it out, is the computer is almost never correct, and I can show you a picture very easily of my instrument panel showing in excess of 30 mpg just by resetting it and taking a snap shot of the highest mileage it will compute. However, it won't do that over an entire tank of fuel, no matter how you drive it, and I seriously doubt yours will either.
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03-01-2015, 04:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 911Patriot
Perhaps Steve but I'm a woman touting this mileage. My husband couldn't believe it either but alas there it was...
Could there be something to the way a woman drives a diesel? We may have to factor that into the mileage mix!
I'll post a daytime picture of the dashboard to assure you it is on our 2015 F-250 Power Stroke Super Duty Diesel. BTW we get a ghastly (gas-tly ) 11-13 mpg around town.
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I believe you. I got 18mpg on a trip (solo, no trailer) with our 6.0L PSD. It doesn't surprise me at all that a newer one would be even better.
My experience with the computer calculated mpg estimates are that they are about 8% high compared to miles driven divided by gallons poured into the tank. Oddly enough this holds true for different manufacturers, both domestic and foreign.
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1995 Airstream Classic 30' Excella 1000
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab with Cummins 6.7L Diesel
Sold but not forgotten: 1991 Airstream B190
Sold: 2006 F-250 6.0L Powerstroke Supercab
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03-01-2015, 04:31 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
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An isolated incident is not worth much, but an average MPG over thousands of miles is the only way to truly compare.
Kelvin,
Looking up averages on Fuelly is probably the best average to seek.
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03-01-2015, 05:52 PM
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#57
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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OK - 11-12 mpg average over the past 35,000 miles/5 years of towing-
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2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
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03-01-2015, 06:39 PM
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#58
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Currently Looking...
Marco Island
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
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The Great Tow Off...And the WINNER IS....
Mileage aside for the moment. Here's the definitive hauling test between Ford, Chevy & Dodge:
Now my only concern now is that I have TOO MUCH power!
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03-01-2015, 07:57 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Mpg meters usually off by a percent factor at a given speed. Mine is 11% high at 60. They're useful for checking local conditions once one knows correction.
Average mpg is what counts, not per tank. Over a year is best.
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03-01-2015, 08:25 PM
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#60
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 911Patriot
Mileage aside for the moment. Here's the definitive hauling test between Ford, Chevy & Dodge:
Now my only concern now is that I have TOO MUCH power!
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Why does ford always cheat.
2013 Dodge
2014 Chevy
2015 Ford
Axle ratio in Fords favor.
Really??????
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