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Old 07-20-2014, 07:53 AM   #15
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What's the hitch rated for?


Nice truck. Mine's black too. :-)

Hi Steve,
Thanks. I love black trucks!

The receiver is a class IV rated for 10,450lbs max trailer weight, 1,045lbs max tongue weight.
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Old 07-20-2014, 09:49 AM   #16
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DOT only cares about the axle and tire ratings. As long as the tire ratings are equal to or greater than the axle ratings and neither axle is overloaded, no issues about being overloaded.

However, if close to an axle max weight, you might weigh each wheel to be sure no one tire is overloaded.
I'm always confused by the reference to DOT as though weights are a legal requirement enforced by them for recreational campers. What is the issue as far as DOT is concerned?
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:03 AM   #17
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Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about the weight ratings, as long as it doesn't get WAY out of hand.

I have a friend here, who has always used Diesel 3/4 ton trucks in the past to tow his goose neck horse trailers (he's in the horse business), but decided because of the cost of operating the big Diesel truck when not towing, has gone to a 1/2 Dodge like Top's except he has the hemi engine.

He has added air bag overloads to the rear of his truck, and simply adds air when towing the heavy horse trailer, and says it works great. He's been doing this for about two years now with no issues, but like Top, I suspect he does not tow that many miles each year.

I considered going to a 1/2 ton truck for the same reasons last year, but because of weight I'm towing, and the number of miles a year we tow, the numbers just did not work. We were talking last night, and since we got our '34 we have towed it over 15,000 miles, and have at least another 3,000 planned this year.
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:39 AM   #18
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We use a 2012 Ram Hemi for our 25' FC, ProPride hitch. This spring our trailer was heavily loaded (unusual for us) with our collections from 7 months touring, the truck bed a light load as usual.

We weighed the rig on the way home finding the truck and trailer axles were all under their ratings. There is so much fuss over trailer tongue weight on this forum, but I believe what matters is the weight of the rig when it's hooked up and weight distribution applied.

Our Ram payload sticker says 1360. Okay, that's a reference that is useful so when I hook up the trailer I keep the load in the truck light. When I haul home concrete blocks I can put about a thousand pounds in the bed, and drive more carefully than when towing because I don't have the advantage of a weight distribution hitch. I try to be reasonable and use common sense.
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:39 PM   #19
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VERY nice Sir.

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Nice! Everyone on the Ram forums seem to love the new ecodiesel, especially with towing.

Like you, I'm a GM guy, who has owned 3 f-bodys. We optioned out ours as well. After test driving a Silverado and Ford, I just fell in love with the Ram for a multitude of reasons.

The Ram suffers from a lighter payload because of the rear coil springs. Ford and & Chevy are still using leaf springs. But the Ram out handles and rides better than both when not towing.

We ended up with the Ram boxes, 3.92 LSD rear, 32 gallon tank, the leather heated/cooled seats and sunroof.




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DOT only cares about the axle and tire ratings. As
long as the tire ratings are equal to or greater than the axle ratings and neither axle is overloaded, no issues about being overloaded.

However, if close to an axle max weight, you might weigh each wheel to be sure no one tire is overloaded.
THIS! I've been spending a lot of time in the towing sections on a few of the Ram truck sites, and it seems anyone who has had a run in with Dot has reported that they only ever cared about the axles.
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"THIS! I've been spending a lot of time in the towing sections on a few of the Ram truck sites, and it seems anyone who has had a run in with Dot has reported that they only ever cared about the axles."

How, where, or why did a recreational camper have a run in with DOT?
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How, where, or why did a recreational camper have a run in with DOT?
I'm repeating and summarizing my own readings here, so it's all hearsay. But the pattern I've seen is in the North East and guys hauling loads. Don't know of anyone with a recreational camper per say.

But I'm sure a trooper would be within their rights to stop this guy if they saw this going down the road with a concern for public safety:

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2014 RAM 1500 EcoDIESEL has arrived!

Congrats on a very nice truck! With a cap on it you'll be maximizing on the advantage of a truck over a SUV. After pulling with gas motors for many years and a Cummings and Mercedes Diesel for the last 8 years I'll never go back!
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Congrats on a very nice truck! With a cap on it you'll be maximizing on the advantage of a truck over a SUV. After pulling with gas motors for many years and a Cummings and Mercedes Diesel for the last 8 years I'll never go back!
Thanks Mr. Carter.
I prefer the look of a truck without the cap. Probably very useful for some people, just not for me.

I'm looking forward to hopefully doubling the towing MPG from my Sequoia's 7-8 MPG.
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Congrats - that's a great looking truck with one hell of an engine & transmission!!!
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I'm looking forward to hopefully doubling the towing MPG from my Sequoia's 7-8 MPG.


The standard is A-B-B-A testng, A being the Sequoia and B being the Ram. Otherwise, close comparison of records in order of importance, for:

1] Truck Spec (list differences)

2] Climate (northern or southern US, for example)

3] Terrain (pavement only or farm & ranch work; mining or oil field, etc; mountains versus the sourthern Gulf Coast, etc. [this is where most vehicle-to-vehicle comparisons suffer]

4] Operator Skill (also, "Truck Use") (this is where most imagine they ARE skilled, they are not. The difference among professional drivers is one-third where in all other ways identical).

One must also account for the per gallon cost of fuel to arrive at an accurate cents-per-mile calculation. I did a close comparison of mine with a man who used his otherwise identical gasser version (but with auto vs my manual) and the above parameters were met . . and the difference was that so long as diesel did not cost more than 50-cents/gl higher than gasoline that fuel cost was a wash. Expected engine working life was the main factor in favor of the diesel.

A long way of saying that mpg is deceptive without analysis. One must also back into the purchase price, months of operation, miles, etc. EDMUNDS "True Cost to Own" gives a good enough starting point. Or, why a good used vehicle always outshines a new one given about 100k of use (when it would likely last 200k). Etc.

Bragging rights are fun -- most RV'ers are rather too polite to challenge that I can pull a 35' TT with a pickup at 15-mpg overall average. It's the details that make up the equation past truck & trailer spec (most are assuming I pull a square box behind a gasser, ha!), and records count most. But not for bragging (as, it ain't braggin' if you can do it) as best fuel burn numbers are the indicator of best vehicle use in an overall sense. Just as poor fuel economy is an indicator, so is tire and brake life of less than 70k miles. Etc. I wanted longest life at highest reliability with lowest operational cost as I imagine you do, and I added to that greatest working range.

Best fuel economy will be found by best mechanical baseline. Which is no brake drag or bad alignment on either vehicle, plus TT bearing pre-load. These must be verified, new or not. Nailing best TV tire pressure and WDH numbers is the pre-requisite. Operator skill is what will matter afterwards. And, why a VPP hitch and TT with disc brakes will reward the skilled operator with better mpg. It's an incremental climb.

http://www.trucktires.com/bridgeston.../WeighForm.pdf

Ron Gratz WDH Chart


Trip-planning for FE [fuel economy] for those long days out to somewhere-cooler-than-Texas has many aspects and, as it is beyond the scope of the thread, let it be said that it is much more than travel speed.

Truck looks great (hope you can garage it).

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