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Old 07-01-2015, 10:36 PM   #15
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I had a similar problem with a AS Bambi with a Chevie trail blazer with coil springs. I dry camp a lot and put 2 golf cart batteries in for AMP hours that added a lit of tung weight. The Blazer was good on tork / power but bad on drive and sway no matter how much tension I put on the weight distribution hitch. Prior to the Trail Blazer I used a half ton Silverado. It was so bad that I was going to sell the Blaser (with 3,000 miles) for another truck.

Instead I had Air Lift air bags installed in the rear springs. Add 35 lbs air when pulling the AS and got good sway control with a reasonable ride. This was about 8 or 9 years ago. I still have the Bambi and I also have a 2012 AS. I am back to a Half ton Silverado and every thing works great.
I have never had a Hensley so I am not a good judge of its operation settings.
Andy with CanAm Airstream is a proven expert on towing AS. Go to CanAm AS webpage and may be give Andy a email or call.
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Old 07-02-2015, 12:59 AM   #16
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Have you checked the towing and payload capacity of the vehicle? Depending on the model and options, your Expedition could have as little as 6000 lbs trailer towing capacity, and that number assumes a nearly empty vehicle except for the driver. Add cargo in the truck and you reduce the weight of the trailer you can tow and still be within factory specifications (notice I did not say within safe limits; that is a value judgement only you can make ).

This chart is from Ford's 2014 towing guide, which can be found here:
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Old 07-02-2015, 01:12 AM   #17
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Hi, a good spring shop can make stronger springs to help you out, but you will still need to have your hitch adjust properly. Springs can't do it all but can help.
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Old 07-03-2015, 09:17 AM   #18
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I agree that towing rates for vehicle is critical. Our 2015 expedition with tow package rates at 9000 lbs with hitch at 900. We are within that range but load the back end of our TV lightly and since we are 25 FC twin FB we are very careful of any weight in front of unit. Towing is generally fine but we know that for extended trips and mountains we will upgrade the TV. We were diligent about examine the towing rates of our vehicle. We would not add springs. It will not extend our capacity. That is just us for our rodeo.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:13 PM   #19
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Have you made any modifications to your trailer that would increase the tongue weight, like say converting the front bed to a king? If so have you taken that into account when distributing cargo within the trailer to maintain proper tongue weight of 10% - 15% of trailer weight? Is fully loaded trailer over the 7300 lb max weight rating?

This info would be helpful to those who could provide you with the guidance you seek.
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Old 07-05-2015, 08:27 AM   #20
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Thank you for all advice - we'll be rearranging and pulling up to 4 chains hanging and then head to the weigh station. I'll report back when I've done that. I've been in touch with Terry and he stands on the fact that if the trailer is level, it's ok to have the wheel well discrepancy. I'm not sure that is good advice.

I'll be back.

PS - the conversion to king size bed used lightweight pine, the same mattress with some foam pieces added and a foam topper. Not heavy at all.
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Old 07-05-2015, 03:20 PM   #21
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We Went To The Weigh Station

We just got back from the weigh station. First we weighed the car loaded with us, most of our gear and the trailer attached. We then unhooked the trailer and weighed the car with us and gear, and then we unloaded the gear and weighed the car with us and bare essentials. Below are the numbers.

We pulled the chains up to 4 links hanging. Terry was recommending only 3 hanging for a more comfortable ride. When we changed from 3 to 4 links, it brought the trailer to the most level we've seen since starting this process. Terry started us with an 8" drop bar which was way too low, changed it to a 6" which was still too low and now we're on the 4" and we're wondering if we should change it to a 2". If we changed to the 2", we could probably cut back to 3 links hanging on the chains.

Here are the numbers along with a picture of the sticker from the inside of my car door:

Car, gear, trailer - steer axle - 7620 (car) + drive axle - 5920 (trailer) = 13540 lb.

Car with gear - 6740 lb.

Car without gear - 6480 lb.

The rub rail front measurement vs. back measurement was 21" front and 23" in the back.

Let me know what you think. Thanks, Liz
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Old 03-01-2016, 11:51 PM   #22
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Sorry for digging up an older thread..

Plamtreegirl - what did you settle on in the end? Did you go to the 2inch drop? I bet that would get you in good shape!
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A set of Firestone air bags are less than $400 at most places now with a remote fob and compressor. My F250 with all my crapola and 47 gallon tank weighs in at 8650 and I level my 30' slider with my air bags. Makes a huge difference in stability IMHO.
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