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Old 12-30-2015, 02:56 PM   #15
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I'm in negotiations to buy:
2015 F150 4x4 Super Crew, 145" WB, 3.5 EB with 3.31 axle and standard Trailer Tow Package. Has the 36 Gal fuel tank and Intergrated Trailer Brake Controller, Tuxedo Black with Med. Gray Cloth interior.

MSRP: $50,115.00

Any suggestions before I sign the papers?

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Old 12-30-2015, 03:25 PM   #16
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I'm in negotiations to buy:
2015 F150 4x4 Super Crew, 145" WB, 3.5 EB with 3.31 axle and standard Trailer Tow Package. Has the 36 Gal fuel tank and Intergrated Trailer Brake Controller.

Any suggestions before I sign the papers?

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Hi jack:

The issue I would see with this truck is it will not have the HD Payload package or HD Tow packages. This of course will not be an issue if your not planning on using it to tow a trailer. If you are, you might want the additional payload that the PL-Package gives you. It's my understanding that the HD Payload Package did not become available till this fall. So I'm guessing you will not find a 2015 with it.

It would be good to know what your payload is on the truck your looking at. You can find that out by looking at the yellow sticker on the drivers door. I'm guessing it will be around 1100 - 1200 lbs and that is not much if you plan on using it with an Airstream.

Not sure if any of this is relevant in your situation, I just thought I would throw it out there.
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:35 PM   #17
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I hope to pull at 27' Front Bed with it when finances allow for that purchase.
Now, looking at the Ford docs on towing, they are showing the trailer tow capacity for the 3.5EB with 3.31 axel at 10,700 pounds max. Considering that is well above the 27FB, I was thinking the "standard" Trailer Tow Package should do fine.

Am I missing something????

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Old 12-30-2015, 04:00 PM   #18
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I'm not sure your missing anything Jack...
The issue with this truck might be the payload capacity. I'm not sure about a 27' but my 28' FC has a tongue weight of just over 1,000 lbs. So if you have a heavy tongue weight like that, you won't have much wiggle room to actually put anything in the box. Remember "payload" is everything you place in the truck including passengers. So one needs to be aware of that. The trucks ability to actually tow a trailer in not an issue. It will do it just fine and you will be happy with everything except the payload.

Now if you get lucky and the truck has a payload of say 1400 - 1600 then that puts a different completion on things as you would have the ability to add another 500 lbs or so in the box and away you go.

At the end of the day, these numbers will drive you nuts if you let them. The good thing is there is ways to mitigate the heavy tongue weights a little if you have to....

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Old 12-30-2015, 04:48 PM   #19
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"At the end of the day, these numbers will drive you nuts if you let them. The good thing is there is ways to mitigate the heavy tongue weights a little if you have to...."

OK, tomorrow morning I'll be at the dealership and checking out the truck.
1. I should check the drivers side door opening for the "payload" the truck can carry - hoping to see something in the 1400-1600 pound range, right?

2. If it's not that high, then can I compensate with a weight distribution hitch, like the Hensley or ProPride?

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"At the end of the day, these numbers will drive you nuts if you let them. The good thing is there is ways to mitigate the heavy tongue weights a little if you have to...."

OK, tomorrow morning I'll be at the dealership and checking out the truck.
1. I should check the drivers side door opening for the "payload" the truck can carry - hoping to see something in the 1400-1600 pound range, right?

2. If it's not that high, then can I compensate with a weight distribution hitch, like the Hensley or ProPride?

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Hi Jack:
Yes the higher the payload weight the better... You can assist the tongue weight greatly with a proper hitch. We use the ProPride system and like it very much. You can also help your weight by only filling one propane tank at a time, this actually makes a big difference and unless your using your furnace all the time the second take is not that important as a fill-up is never very far away. Next packing less gear (think lighter) in the nose of the trailer and more in the rear helps also. I have even heard of folks who moved their batteries to assist when needed. For me that a bit of overkill but everyone to their own.

Good luck and let us know how you make out

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Old 12-30-2015, 06:08 PM   #21
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Don't the Pro-Pride and Hensley hitches add a couple of hundred pounds to your tongue weight? How is using one going to help a guy with limited payload available? Wouldn't a Reese or a Blue Ox transfer just as much weight while weighing half as much?

No question that VPP hitches are great but not exactly svelte...

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Don't the Pro-Pride and Hensley hitches add a couple of hundred pounds to your tongue weight? How is using one going to help a guy with limited payload available? Wouldn't a Reese or a Blue Ox transfer just as much weight while weighing half as much?

No question that VPP hitches are great but not exactly svelte...

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No, they add 150 or so (PP) or 190 (haha) to receiver weight, not tongue weight. Actually, for haha, it's about 23 pounds to tongue weight and 167 to receiver weight. But I know, by experience, that the weight is worth it for the handling improvement for about 90 pounds difference.
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Yes a ProPride type hitch will add a little more weight than the Reese units would to your payload (either tongue or receiver it's still Payload usage). That said, I would take that additional weight any day in the payoff it gives me while towing.

As a closing comment I'm not sure what the exact weight differential would be between a ProPride Hitch and a Reese setup but it won't be 200 lbs. I'm guessing it might be closer to 50 or 60, but I don't know that for sure.

Hope this helps

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Somewhere in my archives, I have all the weight breakdowns of Eq, Reese DC, and haha. IIRC, it is about 90 pounds difference between Reese and haha.
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Old 12-31-2015, 05:32 AM   #25
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Getting great prices offered on Ford F-150's BUT many are 4x2 instead of 4x4.

I'd like opinions on what is really needed. I've had both and must admit it was rare that I engaged the 4x4. What have others experienced?

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I toiled a bit over that question...but when you need it, you need it. Wet, grassy site, beach sites, very steep gravel cg roads. Plus, I live north. Solo snow driving is frequent. On the flip, you gain about 200 pounds of payload with 2wd.
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I would never buy a 4x2 truck - I have had to engage 4WD too many times on steep gravel and not so steep wet grass. The resale of a 4x2 is an issue too. Most of the dealers around here don't have any 2WD 3/4 or 1 ton trucks on the lot at all.


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