Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-07-2011, 08:20 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
2008 28' Safari SE
Punta Gorda , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 29
2011 F-150 Ecoboost

We are very much newbies. Newbies to a point where we bought a 2008 28' Airstream and we own a Prius. Thankfully we understand we need a tow vehicle. The vehicle we are considering is an F-150 Super Crew with the Ecoboost engine set up with the max payload and 11,300 Lb. towing capacity. The GVWR of the Airstream is 7,300 Lb. Our travel plans are to take the country in stages over the next 4-5 years. This will take us through the Rockies and up to Alaska. We would appreciate your opinions on: (1) Do we need 4X4? We understand it is a maintence expense, reduced mileage with little use and a fair expense up front. What is your thought? (2) We are of the mind a 6 1/2' box can be important with reguard to the towing experence and payload. Your opinion? Any other advice would be appreciated.
Thank you,

John and Joy Dibble
Punta Gorda, FL
__________________

__________________
mysecondjoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 08:32 PM   #2
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,764
Images: 5
Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

First off, Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

As to your question, A ford 1/2 ton may work for you, but it may be a little light for a 28' Airstream. We have a 2005 Safari 25FB which we use extensively (800 nights/70,000 miles). It weighs out at 7400# ready to camp. A 28 footer will probably go 8000+#. That's a bunch for a half ton anything, especially in the braking department. Four wheel drive is not a necessity, but is a good thing to have.

I'm not saying that this combination won't work for you, but do your research.

Brian
__________________

__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 08:37 PM   #3
Site Team
 
Aage's Avatar
 
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa , ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,204
Images: 25
msj,

Welcome to airforums.com! It might be of use to update your profile, since it now says you have a Ford F250 and no trailer. It seems you got the trailer, and didn't get the truck!

In my own opinion, unless you are intending to do a lot with your trailer off-road, I'm not sure you would gain anything by having a 4x4.

And I can't help but feel that a tow vehicle that can pull over 11,000 lbs would not be very challenged by anything that Airstream makes. In other words, it should be plenty of TV for your 28-footer!

However, I am not a truck expert, but I'm sure there will be plenty of them along very soon. Trucks are a popular subject here!
__________________
“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.”
...John Wayne...........................
Aage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 08:44 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
4RXLA's Avatar
 
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento , California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 533
Images: 33
Blog Entries: 12
Sounds like the F-150 can do the job for you. I was in a similar situation a year ago debating on the F-150 vs the F-250. My trailer weighs 7500lb on the scale. No doubt the F-150 has the smoother ride and better fuel economy for every day driving. I went with the F-250 mainly for the extra 1000lbs cargo capacity that the 3/4 ton chassis can carry vs a 1/2 ton chassis. My F-250 can carry 2500lbs (passengers and cargo). In researching these forums I learned that despite the 11,000lb tow rating for F-150, its passenger and cargocapacity can be fairly low. So, it all depends on how much "stuff" you plan to throw in the 6 1/2 foot bed on top of the tongue weight of the Airstream and your passengers.

I'm not saying to get a F-250. Just be mindful of the maximum load rating of the F-150. If you are not a pack rat you should be ok. Also, in terms of the wheelbase of the truck, you would not want to go less than a super/extended cab and 6.5 foot bed. I wanted a truck that would fit in my garage and the supercab short bed does fit. I'm probably about 6 inches short of the recommended wheelbase for a 31' trailer but the weight of my truck is equal to the trailer and I do not have sway control issues. Plus my wheelbase is longer than the Excursion and Suburban and I know those particular vehicles can handle an Airstream. I think a standard cab short bed would be too short of a wheelbase. A crew cab shortbed would probably be ideal.

I did not want 4x4 but the only truck available that met my needs had it so I bit the bullet. I have never had occassion to use it towing but it does add piece of mind to know I can get out of the mud, sand, soft grass if I need to.

Good luck with your purchase!
__________________
4RXLA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 09:12 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga , Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 939
Hi John,
I have a 2011 f150 supercab 4x2 with an 8 foot box on order. Ecoboost engine max tow HD load package. My cargo capacity is 2640 lb.
My current tow vehicle is a e150 wagon with 5.4 litre engine. It did a good job towing my 31 foot excella which weighs 8300lbs loaded.
Only a little slow on big grades in the mountains.
This new truck will have 110 more horsepower and almost 100pound feet more torque.
I know I will be very happy with it. Oh yeah; it will also cruise right by all those gas stations I have to stop for now.
Al
__________________
Al and Jean

TAC ON-3
BigAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 09:50 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
4RXLA's Avatar
 
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento , California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 533
Images: 33
Blog Entries: 12
Sounds like the HD load package on the F-150 negates any concern about payload capacity. Ford really has a winner with the F-150. Sounds like you are good to go! and yes, I do have to stop at those gas stations to feed my v10. I'm getting 7mpg in the mountains and 9 on the flat. Does the 2011 F-150 have the new 6.2l engine same as the 250 and 350?
__________________
4RXLA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 10:12 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga , Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 939
Yes they do. 3.7 litre 6, 5.0 litre v8(360 hp) 6.2 litre v8(411hp) and the 3.5 turbo.
With my old 5.4 I got 12mpg towing on highway. Hope to do better towing with the ecoboost but if not will make up for it driving without towing.
Al
__________________
Al and Jean

TAC ON-3
BigAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 10:14 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga , Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 939
Also a f150 these days is not a half ton vehicle. That is real old, out of date terminology.
Al
__________________
Al and Jean

TAC ON-3
BigAl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 10:31 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
4RXLA's Avatar
 
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento , California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 533
Images: 33
Blog Entries: 12
I stand corrected! I know Ford did beef up the suspension and brakes on the F-150. I would imagine their new anti-sway system would also be a positive. The F-150 is practically a F-250.
__________________
4RXLA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:10 AM   #10
Rivet Master
 
TouringDan's Avatar

 
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,472
I wish Toyota offered a HD load package for the Tundra. It is a great TV, but I would like to have a higher rear axle load rating. How long has this been available in the F150? What changes have been made to boost the load capacity? How is this vehicle differant from an F250?

Dan
__________________
TouringDan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:21 AM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar

 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,655
Images: 2
We pull our 34' with a 2009 F150 and it works very well for us. If we decided to do the Rockies, I would look at a supercharger or an F250. With a family of 4 we do need to keep a close eye on the payload of the truck when towing.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 01:11 AM   #12
1 Rivet Member
 
2004 25' Classic
northglenn , Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5
I'm wondering if such a small displacement engine putting out so much power is set on "kill" especially for long term towing purposes. Some say that was what was wrong with the 6 liter power stroke. Too much power in an under designed package. Time will tell I guess!
__________________
Norwestguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 04:51 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
JFScheck's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Rockville , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,474
Images: 33
Diesel technology with a gas engine (turbo, fuel delivery, spark ignition cycle, etc.) - makes for more efficient use, if you ask me, they should have gone all the way and used diesel vice gas but they must feel the general US public are still not educated in how superior a fuel diesel is to gas nor how clean burning the new diesels are (cleaner emissions than a gasser).

The US needs a small diesel for the F-150's & 1500 sized vehicles... The Eco-Boost engines are as close as the US has come since the monster diesel failure of the '80's.

This new engine should be as reliable as any other engine out there...
__________________
John "JFScheck" Scheck
2015 Roadtrek CS Adventurous XL
2015 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 XL Chassis with Mercedes BlueTec V6 Diesel
**I Love U.S.A.**
JFScheck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 05:24 AM   #14
Rivet Master
 
TinLoaf's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari SS SE
Trenton , Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 794
Images: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFScheck View Post
The US needs a small diesel for the F-150's & 1500 sized vehicles...
Ford, Chevy & Dodge all planned to bring out half-ton diesels and shelved them when the economy tanked. I had grand plans to trade up to one of them but was crushed when nothing happened.

This snapshot is from the March 2011 issue of Motor Trend magazine and it's the first I've heard that perhaps the engines are still a possibility. There is hope!

A few years ago Ford's half ton diesel was to be a larger version of Range Rover's 3.6 liter diesel, with an output of 4.4 liters, a little over 300 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque. Well, Range Rover put that EXACT engine into their 2011 models this year. The engine is out there. All Ford has to do is pull the trigger.

__________________

__________________
Steve
TinLoaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ford ecoboost


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2011 Airstream 20 FLYING CLOUD 2011 eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 01-21-2011 07:20 AM
2011 Airstream 22 FB SPORT 2011 eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 01-21-2011 06:40 AM
Happy new year 2011 wasagachris Off Topic Forum 30 01-02-2011 08:25 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.