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Old 03-11-2010, 09:17 PM   #15
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Looks like the Big 3, HP and TQ numbers race is still on ........

even though the average Airstream owner is probably looking for a 3.0L with adequate power with fuel efficiency of 20+ MPG towing and 30+ MPG solo.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:12 PM   #16
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Suburban??

Where did you guys hear the Suburban was going to go by the wayside? Here in Texas they certainly do not have any problem selling Suburbans, and many of the municipalities use the 3/4 ton version. I am on my fourth Suburban and cant imagine being with out it! I only use my Big Block 8.1 to tow, so sometimes it sits for a few weeks at a time, but when I get in it....Wow this thing is a tow monster!!
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:31 PM   #17
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My uncle works for GM in Dallas and says they're shipping them overseas as fast as they can be produced..
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:24 PM   #18
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Where did you guys hear the Suburban was going to go by the wayside?
Next Chevy Suburban and Cadillac Escalade ESV Moving to Lambda Platform - Auto News - Truck Trend
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Whoa, cool!

NOW I can get that Bambi moving through the Rockies with no lag!
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Looks like the Big 3, HP and TQ numbers race is still on ........

even though the average Airstream owner is probably looking for a 3.0L with adequate power with fuel efficiency of 20+ MPG towing and 30+ MPG solo.
Looks like Dodge Ram is starting up the 1/2 ton diesel talks again
Not a 3.0l but a 5.0l

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Old 03-12-2010, 07:09 AM   #21
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ALL trucks have to go with this formula this year. The Dodge guy is misinformed. You'd do yourself good to look at the new Ford F250 with its new diesel. I just drove it at a special truck customer program against all the competition. No one else compared in power...torque or mileage.
bud...I am sure the new Ford is nice...but it is unlikley you compared it to the NEW GM as it is not out yet...and when it is launched (soon) it will be the hp/tq King...again...read the article above.
Having said that, I agree, it would be nice if there were more focus on efficiency and less on continuing the hp wars. The 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks that are out now can pull anything sold to the public.
Maybe the Mfrs should save the hp/tq monsters for the F450/F550-Kodiak platforms and give the rest of better efficiency.

Lucky Dog; you did well! The 06 is the most desirable of the DA's...the only year with no emissions stuff AND the 6 spd Alli. What a combo!

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Old 03-12-2010, 07:54 AM   #22
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ALL trucks have to go with this formula this year. The Dodge guy is misinformed. You'd do yourself good to look at the new Ford F250 with its new diesel. I just drove it at a special truck customer program against all the competition. No one else compared in power...torque or mileage.
I just read in the new consumers report that the worst gas mileage vehicle this year is the diesel F250, 10 mi gal. Last year it was the H2 hummer at 11.
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I just read in the new consumers report that the worst gas mileage vehicle this year is the diesel F250, 10 mi gal. Last year it was the H2 hummer at 11.

Thats another reason the 2011 F250 is revamped.

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Just got a call from my Ford dealer inviting to a showing of the 2011 Ford in about 2 weeks. I hope they let me drive it. Have no doubt, I've had Ford trucks for 30+ years, but this might be my last one and I want to look at all three.
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Urea Injection

I can say that for you guys that are skeptical on the Urea Diesel injection there is nothing to be worried about, nor be concerned with the additional operational costs. I have had my 09 VW Diesel Touareg for 6 months now and it uses that additive as well. I have only added 1/2 gallon in 7k miles, granted the tank is not full but it just does not use that much fluid. The product will be available when the big 3 start selling their trucks almost everywhere from truckstops to auto parts and gas stations. In Europe everything uses it, it is even available at the fuel pump by the liter.

It always amazes me when someone is concerned about a mile or two per gallon or a few fraction of a cents for an additive on a diesel truck. You take a 50k truck and drive off the lot and it loses 10 to 12k in depreciation, what you really have is not a gas mileage problem or a maintenance cost issue but a depreciation issue. Even if you calculate the savings of the diesel in mileage it is so skewed when you factor depreciation of the additonal 4k to 6k for the upgraded diesel.

I say all of that, however the Diesel is the way to go. You just have to keep it to make it worthwile and put lots of miles on it.
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I think the urea injection won't be needed for Dodge diesel pickups in 2011 and for a year or two thereafter, due to some emission credit they earned somewhere or somehow.

However, if the mileage being reported for the new urea-using 2011 Ford and GM diesel pickups are realized, Dodge may want to start using the stuff sooner.
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Urea injection is the future of ALL DIESEL's - its been running great on VW's, Audi's & Mercedes Platforms for almost four years now!

This no longer is your fathers diesel!!!
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I think what's most interesting to me is the new massive GMT-900HD frame. The truck is about 400 lbs heaver, and it isn't the body, engine, transmission or interior.
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