Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-08-2010, 08:14 PM   #1
HCR
3 Rivet Member
 
HCR's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston , Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 190
Images: 6
2010 F150 5.4L--Enough for '25 Safari?

The GVWR of the Safari I've just purchased is 7300. Anyone towing like trailer w/ the 5.4 engine and 3.55 rear axle with tow package and do you have sufficient power for Rocky Mt. passes?

I've atttempted search here on BB without success.

Thanks in advance for your advice as I have NOT bought truck yet.
__________________

__________________
HCR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 08:27 PM   #2
Moderator
 
DKB_SATX's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
1976 Argosy 28
Alamo Heights , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,401
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 7
The 3.55 rear might have you in 3rd sometimes if you're trying to hold 60+ on a steep climb and such, but it's well within Ford's specs.
__________________

__________________
DKB_SATX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 08:31 PM   #3
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,763
Images: 5
Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

first off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

As to your question, we have a 2005 Safari 25FB, named Lucy, that we have towed almost 70,000 miles all over the country. Ready to travel, our Lucy weighs 7400#, having weighed her unhooked at a truck stop Cat Scale.

We tow Lucy with 3/4 ton Suburbans with the 6.0 liter gasoline engine and 3.73 rears. We use a Hensley Arrow hitch system. This combination works well in all situations. On long, steep grades, we do lose some momentum.

He have towed Lucy with our 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe with the 5.3 liter gasoline engine and the 3.73 rear. On the flats the Tahoe did fine. On significant upgrades, it really lost ground.

I have never driven the new Ford 150, and I hear that it is a really good tow vehicle. I would just be a little cautious of the 3.55 rear.

Brian
__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 08:50 PM   #4
HCR
3 Rivet Member
 
HCR's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston , Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 190
Images: 6
Thanks folks for the welocme. I have been told that w/the 3.73 rear axle I can expect to lose about 3 MPG. As I tow only about 2k per year (tx. to Co and return) and drive a lot without towing, I was concerned with maximizing gas mileage when not towing.
__________________
HCR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 09:01 PM   #5
2 Rivet Member
 
lylesgl's Avatar
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Springfield , Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 82
You'll be good-to-go with the F150, rear end ratio, and 5.4L. I towed a 25' Safari SS with a 2005 Ford Expedition with no problems. I also towed a 2007 Safari 27FB SE with the Expedition through mountain passes with no issues; although at times with the 27', the engine screamed in 3rd. I would recomend a 1/2 ton truck up to 25' Airstream; longer than that I would recommend at least a 3/4 ton. The Expedition did great with the 25' but I could feel it start to struggle with the 27'. After my dad wrecked my Expedition, I purchased an F-350; probably too much truck due to stiff suspension (stiff suspensions aren't good for the Airstreams; although I've tried to compensate with 600lb torsion bars and AirSafe hitch). Definately no power issues with the F-350
__________________
lylesgl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2010, 09:03 PM   #6
2 Rivet Member
 
lylesgl's Avatar
 
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Springfield , Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 82
Point of clarification: the 2005 Expedition had the 5.4L engine, and 3.73 rear end
__________________
lylesgl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 12:12 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
JFScheck's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Rockville , Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,474
Images: 33
What is your engine torque for that motor?
__________________
John "JFScheck" Scheck
2015 Roadtrek CS Adventurous XL
2015 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 XL Chassis with Mercedes BlueTec V6 Diesel
**I Love U.S.A.**
JFScheck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 11:46 AM   #8
HCR
3 Rivet Member
 
HCR's Avatar
 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston , Full time traveler
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 190
Images: 6
JF--do not torque. Where found?
__________________
HCR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 11:59 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
mutcth's Avatar

 
2007 23' Safari SE
Central , Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,632
I don't know if you're considering a 2010 because you can get a good deal on it or because you need a truck now rather than later. But since you haven't bought the truck yet, you might want to consider a 2011 if power is a concern.

Ford is coming out with a new 5.0-liter V8 for 2011 (360hp/380 lbft torque) that outpowers the old 5.4-liter (310hp/365 lbft). There will also be an available 3.5-liter V6 twin-turbo with 365 hp/420 lbft torque that will probably give better fuel economy than the V8s.

Tom
__________________
mutcth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 01:24 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
TouringDan's Avatar

 
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,472
HCR

Selecting a tow Vehicle is obviously a major decision. I always like to consider the options and how much more it will cost me, and determine if the benifits are worth the extra cost. Although the 2010 F150 you are considering will do an acceptable job of towing your AS, I would also look at the Tundra 5.7L double cab (2007-2011) (I am biased), the 2011 F150 with the new 5.0 motor and either the 2011 F150 or F250 with the new 6.2L motor. There is a recent post from the new owner of a 2011 F250 and he is very happy with his new truck. I have looked at the Ford website and it doesn't seem to cost much more to go from the F150 to the F250 with the 6.2L and there seems to be more flexability. I would probably wait at least a year on the new 3.5L turbo to wait for the teething problems to get sorted out.

You might find a great deal on a used Tundra with the bad press Toyota has gotten lately. I have been extemely happy with my 2008 model. It has not been back to the dealer yet for any warrenty work although I only have 23,000 miles on it.

Happy truck shopping!

Dan
__________________
TouringDan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 03:27 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
dkottum's Avatar
 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,716
Perhaps the question for yourself is "How fast do I need to go up the mountain?".

The answer is then "more speed, higher fuel cost" or "more power, higher truck and higher fuel cost". Some of the time you save will be lost in more frequent fuel stops.

There are other factors of course, but why get more power (and spend more of your money) than you will ever need for a fully-loaded rig?
__________________
dkottum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 03:50 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
HowieE's Avatar
 
1991 34' Excella
Princeton , New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,813
Images: 12
It is not only the top end speed you have to think about when selecting a rear. The 3.55 will give a bit better gas mileage on the open road but you will be very short on the hills with a trailer back there. The published difference might be 3 mph with just the truck but you will have your foot in it while towing and be in second or third gear while pulling a hill.

I had a Suburban with 3.42s and swapped it to 3.73s and had a much better package all around. Towing 8,500 lbs we made the continental divide at 20 mph with a 6.2 diesel. Came home and swapped the rear.
__________________
WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles

HowieE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 04:04 PM   #13
Halimer
 
2006 25' Classic
New Hyde Park , New York
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 244
I'd go with a F250. More braking power and load range E tires. I blew a brake hose on my AS that came with electro-hydraulic brakes. I had no problem driving to 100 miles to the local AS dealer with my F350.
You may decide to get a larger AS in the future.
Mark
__________________
halimer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2010, 04:59 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
ROBERTSUNRUS's Avatar

 
2005 25' Safari
Salem , Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,269
Images: 18
Blog Entries: 51
Quote:
Originally Posted by HCR View Post
The GVWR of the Safari I've just purchased is 7300. Anyone towing like trailer w/ the 5.4 engine and 3.55 rear axle with tow package and do you have sufficient power for Rocky Mt. passes?

I've atttempted search here on BB without success.

Thanks in advance for your advice as I have NOT bought truck yet.
Hi, I tow a 2005 Safari with a 6,300 lb GVWR; That's 1,000 lbs lighter than your 7,300 lb Safari. I tow it with a Lincoln Navigator 5.4L 32 valve V-8 with 300 horse power and 355 ft lbs torque @ 2,750 RPM. I have the tow package with 3:73 gears. I thought the Rocky Mountains was going to kill my Lincoln, but it didn't. I made most of it in second gear, but once I had to use first gear. If the truck you buy has a six speed transmission, you might be OK with the 3:55 gears. I would still go for the 3:73 gears. I would like to change mine to 4:10's. I would prefer in the future to have an F-150 or F-250 with the new 6.2L engine. I do fine everywhere I go, but the Rockies is really tough.
__________________

__________________
Bob

2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent"
[ Small Silver Castle ]
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
ROBERTSUNRUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2010 BMW MOA International Rally Redmond, Oregon July 15 18, 2010 tikitraveler Other Rallies & Events 1 05-31-2010 08:07 PM
Follow up on f150 and Safari 27' 2008 Bobdes Tow Vehicles 9 11-29-2009 06:50 AM
2008 27' Safari w/F150 Bobdes Tow Vehicles 9 11-22-2009 06:55 PM
F150 (max 7000 tow rating) pulling Safari 25? Eckhart Tow Vehicles 9 04-03-2009 08:22 AM
Towing questions: 1967 Safari with 1994 Ford F150 Billm67 Tow Vehicles 9 06-05-2006 12:01 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.