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Old 06-15-2009, 07:30 PM   #1
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Question 2009 F-150 TV for 25 AS?

Looking for opinions on choosing a 2009 F150, CrewMax 5.4 V-8, to serve as a TV for a 25 Safari (late model). I've read all the propaganda written by Ford but looking for some "real life experiences or input".

Are the Max towing and Max payload packages a must? Or is the standard towing package suitable?

Is the 3.55 axle ratio enough for most travel terrains...or should I insist on the 3.73?

The F-150 is equipped with 18 inch wheels but 20 inch are an option..."more rubber on the road"...truth or myth?

Thanks to all who reply...on the verge of a major purchase.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:04 PM   #2
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The 3.55 axle should be ok for most travels. If you head out west to the mountains the 3.73 would be better.

What is the tow rating difference on the max tow vs. the standard?

Stay with the 18 inch tires. They are just fine and a lot cheaper to replace than 20 inch tires. Plus it's hard to find a good tire in a 20 inch. mostly passenger tires...
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:34 PM   #3
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I tow a 25 foot Safari with a 2005 F-150, 5.4, 3.73, 4x4, no max payload package, Equal-i-zer sway/weight distribution. The combination has been very comfortable. In fact the F-150 handles the trailer better than the 3/4 ton Excursion diesel that it replaced. I do miss the power and fuel economy of the diesel however.

I normally get just over 11 mpg towing 65 mph. The best I've ever gotten was 12.2 with strong tail winds and the worst was 8.9 with strong headwinds. Hope that helps.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:20 PM   #4
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Don't have a Ford, but a simular equiped GMC (5.3 liter, Extended cab, towing package, 3.73 gears) and tow a simular trailer ('01, 25' Excella). The GM 5.3 has a little more horsepower, and a little less torque than the Ford 5.4, but all in all, fairly comparable. Mine has the 20" wheels and tires, and I like them, but the tires are expensive. I have found a Yokahama XL rated tire that is well regarded in the reviews and is not too expensive, so will replace the passenger Goodyears with them. Personally, I would go with the "max towing" and the 3.73 gears. Never have had too much power.
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Old 06-15-2009, 11:55 PM   #5
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Same, but different.

Hi, I would definately get the max tow package, 3:73 gears, and 18" wheels. And you will do fine towing a 25'er.

My 2000 Lincoln has the factory tow package [only one level offered this year] 8,900 lbs tow capacity. Came with 3:L73 gears and 5.4L engine. Has a lot of experience towing a 25' Safari all over the west so far.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:04 AM   #6
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Assuming the 20" have adequate weight ratings and offer reasonable ride comfort...I would strongly consider the 20". Main reason is that the lower sidewall profile will provide less sideway "flex" in an emergency maneuver...with or w/o the trailer. Same reason race cars have very low profile sidewalls.

If you are interested you may want to call Andy Thomson at CanAm RV in Ontario. Andy has been setting up tow vehicles for a long time and has made a bit of "science" out of it. LOWER profile tires are one of his recomendations.

FWIW...w/o getting into other CanAm tow opinions...I do believe the lower profile sidewall provides some (maybe moderate) handling improvement in an emergency...particularly on a high center of gravity pick up truck.

BTW...the 20" tires also look cool Tom R
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We tow a 27FB Safari with our 2005 F-150 with the 5.4L setup. We have the 373 gearing and it does very well. I don't think I would go to the 355.
Ours is a SuperCab, not a SuperCrew but the wheelbase and other technical details are all the same. In addition, we live at the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains and travelling in 'not flat' conditions is not an issue. I do use the engine for braking when going down long grades so I don't boil the brakes but other than that, no issues.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:19 PM   #8
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I come from a Ford family, todays F150's are gutless. Dodge & GM's have more towing power in their gas engines. The new Dodge Ram with the Hemi & 3.92's will exceed your expectations.
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Hi, I would definately get the max tow package, 3:73 gears, and 18" wheels. And you will do fine towing a 25'er.

My 2000 Lincoln has the factory tow package [only one level offered this year] 8,900 lbs tow capacity. Came with 3:L73 gears and 5.4L engine. Has a lot of experience towing a 25' Safari all over the west so far.
Robert hits it right on the head. You will be ok with the max tow package. There's nothing worst then not having and wishing you had gotten the right gear ratio.

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Old 06-19-2009, 02:41 PM   #10
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"[QUOTE]Looking for opinions on choosing a 2009 F150, CrewMax 5.4 V-8, to serve as a TV for a 25 Safari (late model). I've read all the propaganda written by Ford but looking for some "real life experiences or input".

Thanks to all your positive responses regarding the aforementioned 2009 F150...we just signed the deal on our new F150!! As the saying goes, "life is full of compromises"...but I believe we made the best choices for our specific needs. Only disappointment was that we had listed as our first color choice as the tri coat Sand, but when we found out that the company (Terry's Toppers) who was painting and installing our topper could not guarantee an exact color match we went with the Oxford White. All said and done...we're just as happy...even after an extra $500 to install after factory Ford Tow mirrors.

I guess all we need now is the perfect AS to tow!!!!!!!!!!

Again, thanks to all who responded!
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:54 PM   #11
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Congratulations on the new horse. You will love the Ford Tow mirrors. I love mine...just make sure you don't hit anything with them. They run $600 and up to replace. Mine had the turn signal indicator and heater in them and it wasn't pretty.

Anyway, the new trucks are great and I think you will be happy. Welcome to the forums and show us some pictures when you get the new Airstream and keep us informed of "the hunt".
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:30 PM   #12
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Welcome to the forums and GOOD LUCK with your search. Please don't jump on the first thing you see. IF you cant drive 2 hrs one way to look at a trailer,DON'T BUY IT.We made that rule and stuck to it.Hands and Eye ON inspections are the only way,when making a purchase of this magnitude. Friends of ours just bought an 89 Excella 31 ft that is just gorgeous.So they are out there.Be Patient!
Congrats on the new TV. Ford of course is our favorite,we have 2,a F150 and an F350 with which we tow, we don't own a car. I think you made a wise choice on the color.White is Cooler.
Barbara there are supposed to be some parks going out of business there in Fla and I hear there a lot of AS's for sale,there might be one close to home just for U .
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:57 PM   #13
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Oxford White.

Hi, BarbaraS. Your F-150 will be a great tow vehicle and Oxford White looks good while hitched up to a Silver Airstream. Ask me how I know. [see post #5]
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Yeah, we are looking to take delivery on the F150 in a day or two...waiting for the tow mirrors to be installed...you 're not the first to mention the DANGER of hitting the extended mirrors...! Thanks for your words of encouragement.
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